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It's 10 years since I lived there; at the time I was struck by its patriotism and how, compared to our media a few years back, theirs backed its own country and people 100% in all they do.
I would be interested to know how the news channels over there are covering this disaster - has anyone taken a look over at FOX news or CBN? Are they still as right wing as ever or are the media, like the citizens, quite rightly utterly slating Bush for his lack of understanding, urgency and forthright leadership?
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The media is, and will always be, biased to one side or another...and if you want an American's point of view, I can give it to you....
The news coverage here has been doing what it always does, covers the most tragic and shocking news they can find. The looting, the crime, the sick, the dead, the distressed, etc....that is the news story that people will watch and listen to...that is the story that people will remember and go on to talk about...
However, once and a while, when you listen, you will hear the good news...and there is plenty of good news to be heard...
Don't assume it's all bad, simply because that's the coverage you're getting there...here the news trys to cover what people will watch...and that is what they are doing.
And, yes, to your other question...the news has been stressing here also, that Bush hasn't had the most appropriate role and people here are expressing their disappointment in him.
Bush ..... for his lack of understanding, urgency and forthright leadership !!! What foolish trivial childish prattle. The President of the United States is a brave and accomplished man totally and completely dedicated to his people, and has been superhuman in doing everything possible to get aid there.
Jane Grove do you ever have anything nice to say to anyone .i haven't forgotten your "foolish childish prattle "on another thread.Putting the wind up people who were feeling a bit under the weather.
I dare say the Americans were more patriotic ten years ago as Sunflower says.They had a more human president then ..Mr.Clinton ..who in spite of his "private life" came across as a man more in touch than Bush.Or has the war in Iraq passed you by totally and that fact that Bush diverted money from the upkeep of the levees to pay for his war.
I don't think the majority of the poor people who are suffering in this disaster think he is a very "brave and accomplished "man at this moment in time.
I dare say the Americans were more patriotic ten years ago as Sunflower says.They had a more human president then ..Mr.Clinton ..who in spite of his "private life" came across as a man more in touch than Bush.Or has the war in Iraq passed you by totally and that fact that Bush diverted money from the upkeep of the levees to pay for his war.
I don't think the majority of the poor people who are suffering in this disaster think he is a very "brave and accomplished "man at this moment in time.
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if you love Iraq so much why do you support Bush with his warmongering.
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One of the main reasons New Orleans is so vulnerable to hurricanes is the gradual disappearance of the wetlands on the Gulf Coast that once stood as a natural buffer between the city and storms coming in from the water. It is a fact that the Clinton administration set some tough policies on wetlands, and it is a fact that the Bush administration repealed those policies--ordering federal agencies to stop protecting as many as 20 million acres of wetlands.
In June, Bush took his little ax and chopped $71.2 million from the budget of the New Orleans Corps of Engineers, a 44 percent reduction.
About 35 percent of Louisiana's National Guard is now serving in Iraq, where four out of every 10 soldiers are guardsmen. Recruiting for the Guard is also down significantly because people are afraid of being sent to Iraq if they join.
The Louisiana National Guard also notes that dozens of its high-water vehicles, Humvees, refuelers and generators have also been sent abroad. (I hate to be picky, but why do they need high-water vehicles in Iraq?)
This, in turn, goes back to the original policy decision to go into Iraq without enough soldiers and the subsequent failure to admit that mistake and to rectify it by instituting a draft.
The levees of New Orleans, two of which are now broken and flooding the city, were also victims of Iraq war spending. Walter Maestri, emergency management chief for Jefferson Parish, said on June 8, 2004, "It appears that the money has been moved in the president's budget to handle homeland security and the war in Iraq."
I said nothing about him diverting the money illegally.
Don't threaten me .Trace me if you wish .I could not care less.Turn up on my doorstep at your peril you pontificating pr**t.
Read and learn
One of the main reasons New Orleans is so vulnerable to hurricanes is the gradual disappearance of the wetlands on the Gulf Coast that once stood as a natural buffer between the city and storms coming in from the water. It is a fact that the Clinton administration set some tough policies on wetlands, and it is a fact that the Bush administration repealed those policies--ordering federal agencies to stop protecting as many as 20 million acres of wetlands.
In June, Bush took his little ax and chopped $71.2 million from the budget of the New Orleans Corps of Engineers, a 44 percent reduction.
About 35 percent of Louisiana's National Guard is now serving in Iraq, where four out of every 10 soldiers are guardsmen. Recruiting for the Guard is also down significantly because people are afraid of being sent to Iraq if they join.
The Louisiana National Guard also notes that dozens of its high-water vehicles, Humvees, refuelers and generators have also been sent abroad. (I hate to be picky, but why do they need high-water vehicles in Iraq?)
This, in turn, goes back to the original policy decision to go into Iraq without enough soldiers and the subsequent failure to admit that mistake and to rectify it by instituting a draft.
The levees of New Orleans, two of which are now broken and flooding the city, were also victims of Iraq war spending. Walter Maestri, emergency management chief for Jefferson Parish, said on June 8, 2004, "It appears that the money has been moved in the president's budget to handle homeland security and the war in Iraq."
I said nothing about him diverting the money illegally.
Don't threaten me .Trace me if you wish .I could not care less.Turn up on my doorstep at your peril you pontificating pr**t.
HAnn521 thanks for your useful insights; certainly I never did assume it was all bad - I know the great spirit of the US has always and will always be strong whatever is thrust upon you.
Some more foolish childish prattle for you Jane Grove; you seem to react to it well. Superhuman - is that what you call it? I watched Bush crack jokes with his aides to the cameras last night in an effort to somehow align his country. He is so out of touch with reality it is untrue.
I fail to understand how shaneystar's comments are snide and furthermore I beg to differ that you have the bedside manner of a doctor.
What is more serious is that you would dare to threaten that somebody has been libellous - surely this is simply a moment of free speech. In these current circumstances, threatening behaviour is a no no I would say. However, lucky you got stars for just your reply.
i am sorry to hijack your thread sunflower .But I think the Americans are truly patriotic..but for their country..not for their government in the present situation.I see no message of sympathy for these people in janegroves posts.
Janegrove spouts medical knowledge ..cut and pasted from the web..is he/she a doctor ..I don't think so. She turned a light hearted thread into a rant for her own opinions.
In Iraq in 1945..Maybe.This makes he/she pushing ..or well over eighty years of age.
Large commercial contracts in that country..I smell oil. No wonder you love Mr.Bush JG.
Janegrove spouts medical knowledge ..cut and pasted from the web..is he/she a doctor ..I don't think so. She turned a light hearted thread into a rant for her own opinions.
In Iraq in 1945..Maybe.This makes he/she pushing ..or well over eighty years of age.
Large commercial contracts in that country..I smell oil. No wonder you love Mr.Bush JG.
traceable?? are u having a laugh??? haha i am so sorry but if the president of the united states wants to send a shaneystar a court someones for saying something libel on a answerbank thread then i think he and u suffer from dementia of the highest order!!
I think Jane Grove needs to get a back into western civilisation and in touch with normal western reality, i think all them years in the Iraq sun has caused heatstroke or something!!
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