Does Anyone Have Any Sympathy With This?

[youngmafbog]

So some women are moaning about wearing revealing clothing and high heels. Where I work the Company struggles to stop them wearing inapproiate clothes especially in the summer.

But what really gets my goat is that women are not the only ones that have to abide by a dress code. For instance I have to wear csocks, they dont, in many places I have worked I have to wear a done up collar and tie, they can wear a loose blouse, women can wear shorts, I cant.

Do the women really want to abide by the dress code i have to?

http://news.sky.com/story/lax-laws-on-sexist-dress-codes-are-failing-female-employees-10741773

[Bazile]

jno - yeah men should have to - they would look very fetching .

Look at those gorgeous attired blokes in the Money supermarket ads

[jno]

very true, Bazile, they would be an ornament to any office.

[Old_Geezer]

I think that gender should play little part in it. Staff should be asked to wear clothing appropriate for their job, but the choice should be theirs unless a case can be made for a specific uniform. There will still be debate as to what counts as appropriate for men & women, so it still is a subjective issue that employers ought to use common sense about.

[youngmafbog]

Hmmm, I see few have commented on my point about what men have to comply with too. I think I see how equal rights works.

High heels tend to put the leg muscles particularly the calf. That is most likely the attraction to most men; more shapely legs.

Out on the pull fine but not really appropriate in an office, but like I say where I work they are often worn with skirts that can only be described as a belt - and they should not be wearing them!

Despite some of you lambasting TTT I suspect he has a point.

[jno]

if you're unhappy about what you have to wear, do something about it, don't just moan about women.

[andy-hughes]

YMB - I am not sure that you grasp why there is the upset about dress codes.

The places where you have worked may have asked you to wear a tie, but they didn't ask you to wear tight trousers and a tight shirt, or to dye your hair a certain colour, or wear make-up did they?

The point they are arguing about with certain dress codes for women is that it is not about appearing to be smart and professional - which is the thinking behind a tie for men - it is about making women look more sexually attractive, and obviously that is not acceptable.

If a woman wishes to wear a short skirt or a loose blouse or shorts, as some of your colleagues apparently do, then that is a matter of personal choice.

Making a woman conform to an image that is based purely on her sex appeal is not - and that is what the protest is about.

[mikey4444]

I think we may be missing the point here a bit.

Men generally wear clothes that keep them warm, don't cost too much and aren't silly. Women seem to work on a totally different scenario. They wear shoes that are uncomfortable but "look nice" mainly to other women. Don't let a women kid you that she wear daft shoes too attract men....they mostly don't.

Bunions are relatively known in men, but far from unknown in women.

Women are their own worst enemies here. If they don't want to wear high heels, than they shouldn't wear high heels....its a simple as that.

[237SJ]

Mikey - the issue here is not about women choosing to wear high heels and uncomfortabe clothes. It's about their employers telling them to do so

[Zacs-Master]

We know that Mikey. That's the whole point of the campaign. Women are being coerced into dressing in a certain way on pain of losing their jobs. Did you not read / understand the link in the OP?

[maggiebee]

I would love to wear high heels but find it impossible since having two hip replacements. However, I would hate to be told that I had to wear them.

[mikey4444]

Of course I understand the issue !

But when Employers tell women to wear high heels, and they don't want to, they should tell them to go to hell !

But its not just at work that women are wearing these heels is it ?....nobody is forcing them to wear them on a Friday night out in town !

[pixie374]

Mikey, exactly... that's choice...

[Zacs-Master]

Can you not tell the difference between the choice of a woman to look attractive on a night out and to be comfortable and business like at work?

The whole point of the campaign is to enable women to be able to turn round to their bosses and say go to hell and not be sacked.

[EDDIE51]

Yes , I would refuse to work in a skirt and high heels, do they make them in size 11 anyway ?

[237SJ]

"They should tell them to go to hell" Yeah, and get suspended from work.

[Cloverjo]

Mikey, the women who are protesting about being told to wear high heels and revealing clothes at work are probably not the same women who wear them on a Friday night of their own volition.

[mikey4444]

Eddie....I tried high heels once, on New Years Eve 1999. Never again....how the feck anyone walks in them is beyond me !

[jourdain2]

I left a job because I turned up one day in (very smart) trousers and a supervisor whipped me away and made me wear an overall! ( 1970). I thought *** this and went to train to be what I should always have been -a teacher. So in a way it was a good thing. In teaching, I wore what I wanted (in reason), usually smart trouser suits ---- and comfortable shoes! No one should be told to wear heels - I can't, after hip replacement. If men wear flats, so can ladies. I can see that receptionists should be required to look clean and neat - but no specific requirements such as make-up.

If men are in a 'front-line' role then shirt and tie constitutes normal garb. They aren't (I as far as I am aware) required to dress in a way that is interpreted as 'sexy' or 'attractive'. Neat and tidy should be the most any employer can demand i.m.o..

[237SJ]

^and?

[237SJ]

Sorry, that was to mikey