Shouldn't This Peaceful Silent March Be Allowed To Take Place Without Violent Opposition?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/pegida-uk-hundreds-attend-birmingham-central-mosque-opposition-tommy-robinsons-anti-islam-march-1542279

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - //andy-hughes, your rudeness is misplaced. I meant what I said. //

So did I, but if you feel I was rude, it was not my intention.

My apologies.

[andy-hughes]

Baldric - ///// abusers are nasty horrible pondlife types who act on base instincts and carry out their vile assaults as opportunists.///

If you really believe that you are seriously naive. //

The particular abusers to whom I am referring, are those who molested women during the New Year's Eve celebrations in Cologne, and I believe that they were opportunists.

I am not suggesting that all abusers are opportunists - merely those on that occasion.

I hope that clarifies any misunderstanding.

[naomi24]

andy-hughes, //Feel free to insert 'ignored' or 'not understood' - whichever is appropriate. //

Your apology doesn't wash.

[Baldric]

No misunderstanding, that's ^ what I was referring to.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - //andy-hughes, //Feel free to insert 'ignored' or 'not understood' - whichever is appropriate. //

Your apology doesn't wash. //

I am sorry to read that.

[retrocop]

These opportunists seem to appear wherever women are free to walk the streets of Europe and there are Muslim men.Not just Cologne,but Sweden, Denmark etc. Now don't tell me that is coincidence. It is a culture that is not acceptable to Western Society and Robinson has the cajones to say so and you castigate him for pointing it out.
Considering Robinson is speaking out against a pernicious culture I am surprised that one here who would be a prime candidate in demonstrating the law of gravity at the hands of this culture is being so critical of the facts that have been addressed by Pergida.

[naomi24]

Of course they weren't opportunists - and neither are the gangs of Muslim men who abuse young girls.

[andy-hughes]

retrocop - //These opportunists seem to appear wherever women are free to walk the streets of Europe and there are Muslim men.Not just Cologne,but Sweden, Denmark etc. Now don't tell me that is coincidence. It is a culture that is not acceptable to Western Society and Robinson has the cajones to say so and you castigate him for pointing it out. //

Personally speaking, I don't castigate Robinson for pointing it out. Bu then again, I would criticise him for saying that gravity is working today - and it's about as necessary for him to point that out as well.

My argument with Robinson is not that he points out something so obvious that it is irrelavent, it is the way he does it in order to whip racial hatred under the guise of patriotism. 'English Defence League'? It will be a cold day in hell before I need Robinson and Co's self-appointed crowd of racists to 'defend' me from anything!

// Considering Robinson is speaking out against a pernicious culture I am surprised that one here who would be a prime candidate in demonstrating the law of gravity at the hands of this culture is being so critical of the facts that have been addressed by Pergida. //

I think I know to whom you refer - why so coy I don't know, but I would suggest that, in common with me, he is not critical of the facts at all - he is critical; of the agenda behind it - racism and attention-seeking.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - //Of course they weren't opportunists ... //

That's a little less obvious to me than it seems to be to you - you know this how exactly?

[retrocop]

//- he is critical; of the agenda behind it - racism and attention-seeking.//

Not critical of the agenda of Islam and it's recent demonstrations of racism then.

[-Talbot-]

I'm inclined to believe it was coordinated

http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/cologne-new-years-eve-rape-mob-attacks-were-planned-minister/news-story/689821299fd8bc4162598e7438699a9a

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

/// I am not suggesting that all abusers are opportunists - merely those on that occasion. ///

Oh so they weren't just your ordinary filthy disgusting and mentally disarranged sex predators then, just opportunists?

How strange the liberal left mind works.

[naomi24]

andy-hughes, //That's a little less obvious to me than it seems to be to you - you know this how exactly? //

According to Germany’s Justice Minister “This is obviously a completely new dimension of organised crime” – but you appear to think you know better.

[andy-hughes]

rockhopper - //Ah. When you are shown to be completely wrong about something, just post up a load of words that don't really mean anything. Good thinking. //

No thanks - I'll continue to explain my view as clearly as I can, and be open to discuss it, and to clarify any points I have not made clear.

Your suggestion seems rather pointless in my view.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - //andy-hughes

/// I am not suggesting that all abusers are opportunists - merely those on that occasion. ///

Oh so they weren't just your ordinary filthy disgusting and mentally disarranged sex predators then, just opportunists? //

The two are not mutually exclusive, as I am sure you know, and that was not what I said, as I am also sure you know.

You appear to be still harbouring your view that I am a defender / apologist for abusers, although I have posted a correction to that view - disgustingly offensive as it is. Did you read that post?


// How strange the liberal left mind works. //

I can't comment, sorry, I don't have a one of those.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - //andy-hughes, //That's a little less obvious to me than it seems to be to you - you know this how exactly? //

According to Germany’s Justice Minister “This is obviously a completely new dimension of organised crime” – but you appear to think you know better. //

I don't think I know better - happy to accept the Justice Minister's view, since obviously he knows more about it than either of us.

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

/// it is the way he does it in order to whip racial hatred under the guise of patriotism. 'English Defence League'? It will be a cold day in hell before I need Robinson and Co's self-appointed crowd of racists to 'defend' me from anything! ///

/// racism and attention-seeking. ///

Since you seem to be a stickler for correctness, will you now cease from playing the 'Race' card at each and every occasion.

This thread is a criticism of the growth of Islam, and since Islam is not a race, can you please refrain from using that word?