Shouldn't This Peaceful Silent March Be Allowed To Take Place Without Violent Opposition?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/pegida-uk-hundreds-attend-birmingham-central-mosque-opposition-tommy-robinsons-anti-islam-march-1542279

[Jackdaw33]

That's why the French have two different words for 'yes', depending on whether the question is framed positively or negatively.

[agchristie]

TR has stated that the marchers will return to Birmingham in April and each month thereafter so watch this space.

[sp1814]

-Talbot-

When you've been proven wrong, man up and admit it.

[-Talbot-]

Proven wrong on what?

[sp1814]

You said you were waiting on my evidence that Tommy Robinson was an antisemite.

You were wrong there because I never claimed he was.

I then produced evidence of what I did write, where I didn't even mention Mr Robinson...

Do you see where I'm coming from?

[Svejk]

Sp, can't find the thread but I'm not in the habit of making things up. There was a long thread last week(recently, anyway) and someone put a link up to a thread from a couple/few years ago where you made the claim. There are a few 'blogs' that make the same claim and you linked to one of them.
There are plenty to choose from. This one looks similar with all the graphs.

http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/terrorism-in-europe/

[-Talbot-]

No I don't.


If I say the BBC has a history of peadophilia and post a link to Jimmy Savile ... That's ok is it?

You made accusations of anti-semitism and posted a link to Tommy Robinson. There was no proof of any anti-semitism in the link you posted, despite you saying "if you want MORE proof ....blah, blah blah.

[Svejk]

Tommy Robinson claims that he went to one BNP meeting (they were the only party addressing concerns he had with Islam in Luton) where he was signed up.
He went to the next meeting with his two best friends who happened to be black. They were refused entry and he never had anything further to do with them.
Whether that's true or not I couldn't say, I wasn't there.
Why did he join in the first place? Maybe you'd have to be a young working class person growing up in Luton at that time to know.

[Peter Pedant]

couldnt this peaceful march passed off...

o god the march has taken place
but the drivel on the AB thread marches on

yet another batch of cut and pastes from contributions from a few days ago
can we get onto something new and undiscussed like

"Is Sharia * marching up whitehall and mugging and taking us all over ? "

[ * Sharia - whoever she is - my thanks to ZM for that one ]

[-Talbot-]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-22936706

Worth listening to

[andy-hughes]

Peter Pedant - if you think the thread is 'drivel', you can always exercise your democratic right not to join in an further.

[agchristie]

> but the drivel on the AB thread marches on

As you keep reminding and as you do so the thread count increases....

[sp1814]

Svejk

You have no evidence of what you claim I said, and I have checked back through my posts over the past couple of weeks, and can see nothing even vaguely resembling a statement from me claiming that most terrorist attacks in Europe are made by non-Muslims, so let's be charitable and say you made a mistake, eh?

[sp1814]

-Talbot-

You seem fraught.

You made a mistake.

We all do.

It's not a big deal.

The fact is, I referred to the BNP and EDL and their antisemitism. I then posted a link to a story about that. Mr Robinson was featured in because he was the leader of the EDL at the time.

I hope you understand why I posted the link, and I hope you agree with me that I did not accuse Tommy Robinson of being antisemetic, but that I was referring to the EDL and BNP.

If you don't agree with that, fine. Perhaps it's upsetting you, but it really shouldn't. It's not something that you should tear yourself up about.

It's merely a detail you misinterpreted.

[-Talbot-]

Upset?

LOL LOL.

Simple question, was there any evidence of anti-semitism in the link you provided?

[sp1814]

-Talbot-

The BNP and EDL have a history of antisemitism. By this, I mean their membership.

You're going to have to do some research yourself, but I'm now getting a bit worried for you.

You seem so very upset about this, and I don't won't to add to your stress.

But, you could start off with this:

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2008/apr/10/thefarright.race

I've put my position, and I really hope you understand that I'm only pointing out what I believe to be true.

Maybe you'll feel better if you could provide me with evidence that the BNP and EDL have not got a racist and antisemetic past!

That would show me!!!

Go for it.

But PLEASE...don't get upset. It's not that big a deal.

[Svejk]

No mistake, sp. I will find that thread, which as I said was from a couple/few years ago. You obviously don't read/don't understand what other people say.
Prepare a grovelling apology. ;o)

[-Talbot-]

Calm down with your passive aggressive sarcastic rhetoric, sp ... it won't work.

Look at the title of the link you provided, deny it all you want but that link says to me you were trying to put it across that Tommy Robinson is a anti-semetic.

[andy-hughes]

Talbot - //Calm down with your passive aggressive sarcastic rhetoric, sp ... it won't work. //

You referred to me as 'passive aggressive' on a previous thread, and I asked you what you meant, and am so far without a reply?

What do you mean by 'passive aggressive'?

[sp1814]

Svejk

Hang on!

You might be shooting yourself in the foot here.

Remember, you brought this up because I denounced the piece in the Pegida blog, right?

Well, that was an opinion piece, written on a site affiliated to Pegida.

If I referenced any material which has been backed up by a number of sources (and I've not looked into this claim), you will win this argument, only by losing your original one).

A Pyrrhic victory.

(Or perhaps this is me simply outlining the defence case because the prosecution have announced a surprise witness).