Body & Soul0 min ago
A Bad Night For Labour
Oh Dear.
Despite the vote for any mid-term election usually going against the incumbent Government, despite the bad couple of weeks with Windrush, despite the (so we are being told by the Remain camp) Brexit negotiations not going well....and so on and so forth, I'd have expected Labour, as Labour expected, to have done considerably better than they have.
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Is this an indictment of Labour's hapless leader?
Despite the vote for any mid-term election usually going against the incumbent Government, despite the bad couple of weeks with Windrush, despite the (so we are being told by the Remain camp) Brexit negotiations not going well....and so on and so forth, I'd have expected Labour, as Labour expected, to have done considerably better than they have.
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Is this an indictment of Labour's hapless leader?
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I'm not sure it's bad enough to indict Corbyn. A lot of the party members, in hindsight, got extremely excited and set some ludicrous goals - e.g. taking Wandsworth and Westminster councils, which are extremely Tory.
Pretty average result for them really. Tories benefiting from the collapsed UKIP vote and the loyalty of their base supporters.
Pretty average result for them really. Tories benefiting from the collapsed UKIP vote and the loyalty of their base supporters.
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It doesn't look too bad for Labour right now. Labour have gained some seats. Cons have lost a few.
It doesn't look too bad for Labour right now. Labour have gained some seats. Cons have lost a few.
As I predicted yesterday, everyone lost.
Labour had target seats, but did not get them all.
Pundits predicted a rout in London, and Tories were fearful, but that did not happen.
The Conservatives benefitted by the UKIP collapse, which is a bit of a hollow victory. UKIP did not contest many seats and should call it a day and close down.
Labour had target seats, but did not get them all.
Pundits predicted a rout in London, and Tories were fearful, but that did not happen.
The Conservatives benefitted by the UKIP collapse, which is a bit of a hollow victory. UKIP did not contest many seats and should call it a day and close down.
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Also depends a little on what you're comparing it to. The equivalent elections in 2014 went pretty well for Labour already, so it's difficult to draw conclusions just yet. Also, if, as TTT says, Ukip voters mostly returned to the Tories, then that complicates the analysis too.
At 2014 the effective national vote share was something like 31% Lab, 29% Con, 17% Ukip, and 13% LibDem. I'm not sure what the equivalent figures are for yesterday but it seems likely that Labour are still coming out slightly ahead.
At 2014 the effective national vote share was something like 31% Lab, 29% Con, 17% Ukip, and 13% LibDem. I'm not sure what the equivalent figures are for yesterday but it seems likely that Labour are still coming out slightly ahead.
Except jim, often people will use the local elections to give a bloody nose so Labour after 8 years should be doing much better. In addition although some may give a bloody nose in a mid term when it comes to a General that is not the case.
To be honest I dont think any conclusions on any party can really be drawn by this.
To be honest I dont think any conclusions on any party can really be drawn by this.
yep, YMB, the PM will be happy with this, Labour should have been thumping the Tories in a mid term local and they just aren't at the races. I guess even the Labour faithful are concerned about agent COB and his merry band of extremists. Even the limp dums are making a comeback. Not enough to dump the Cobster though which is good for the Tories in the next GE. Overall I'm more pleased than I though It would be this morning.
