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dannyk13 is also an ex-bobby, AOG.
OG. //By their own admission he was able to walk before he got into their car.//
That was the lie they told.He did not walk back to the car.
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Perhaps it should now be obligatory for an arrested person to be medically checked out, before being transported to the police station?
AOG //Perhaps it should now be obligatory for an arrested person to be medically checked out, before being transported to the police station?//
That would be impracticable.,if there was any evidence of an arrested person being injured he would be examined by a police surgeon at the station.
Mr aog
Nothing more I can add to what Danny has said. It would appear that after an altercation with a door manager and police on arrival it was decided to arrest the victim.We do not know why. I assume the victim did not voluntarily walk to the awaiting police van and had to be frog marched to it with feet dragging the ground.
Nothing wrong so far until, at the station the victim's condition deteriorated. Then it goes wrong when pen touches notebook.If they were aware that the victim had a broken neck at time of arrest they should of called an ambulance and applied splints etc to disable movement. However without an X-ray machine on site they could be unaware his neck was broken and he was paralysed. The fact he was dragging his feet would not necessarily alert the officer's attention to paralysis but an unwillingness to cooperate.
When it is apparent at the charging station that the prisoner/victim needed hospitalisation then the stories were concocted and varied from the truth.
No specific criminal criminal offence was committed by the police officers.No perjury. No Perverting the course of justice.
Spath
I once had occasion to administer CPR to a very old lady in the street one night after she collapsed and stopped breathing. I persevered for along time until an ambulance arrived. She kept breathing for a while and then stopping.. Her elderly husband who accompanied her did not tell me that she suffered from Asthma and left her inhaler at home.
She made a recovery at St Mary's Paddington with most of her left rib cage broken. I did that. Do you think I should of been charged with assault.
I wasn't then sufficiently trained in First Aid at that time to know she was hyperventilating and taking in too much Carbon Dioxide. If she had been left comfortably on the floor without my administrations her level would of dropped automatically and she would most likely continue breathing on her own without me breaking up her poor ribs.
Do you think I should of been charged with assault.


Of course not you went via protocol. These police officers did not. You did what was right at the time, these officers did what they thought was right, realised it was wrong and then conspired to keep their jobs.
you did not permanently paralyse a teenager, you broke the rib of an old woman trying to help her breath. That is very natural when doing CPR. the rib will fix. The vegetable state may not.
That appears to be right. The only impropriety committed was falsifying a pocket book report.
I learnt only last week of an incident involving, what otherwise was, an outstanding police officer who called someone a four letter word beginning with C. A complaint was made and the officer denied saying it.His body cam proved differently and he was sacked. Not for what he said but the fact he denied saying it. Porky pies are taken very seriously in the Police Force nowadays. Try it in the witness box and you look at 7 years.
and that's how it needs to be retrocop. The police need to be trustworthy, moral citizens else wheres the hope? The trust? the cooperation?
By lying about what actually took place, are they not perverting the course of justice?
If it went to a court of law.
As there was no crime, no they were not perverting the course of justice.
the crime could be a breech of the peace
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dannyk13

I was not being serious Danny, I was just trying to excuse the police's immediate action.
or to break a neck????? is that not excessive force
Groan, your turn Retro.I have had enough.
AOG :-)
danny
It's hard work isn't ?
Spath,
Which police officer broke the victims neck and at what stage of the incident?
i have taken your points Danny and now see and maybe not agree but understand why it is not an offence. And yours JTH, retro...
retro i'm not sure, but surely finding out how his neck got broke and by who is quite important?

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