No Going Back To Work

[allenlondon]

Apparently, people who needn’t go back to work aren’t going back to work.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/sep/10/no-rise-in-workers-in-uk-city-centres-despite-back-to-office-plea

Is this inevitable? So many office jobs are far from useful, involving moving bits of paper around, or making phone calls, that people just aren’t going to miss a few million office workers not turning up.

A bit like many hospital clinic consultations, just as effective done by telephone, people might be waking up to the tremendous waste of time that society indulges in.

[MartinMillar]

I really don’t understand how the government can for years push their employees into working from home and even build buildings with significantly minimal seating to ‘encourage’ staff to work from hom.
When they do they are vilified and blamed for the high street failure

[burlyshirley]

Actually the vegan sausage rolls are nice as well, believe it or not.

[Jackdaw33]

Mushroom, LOL!

[jno]

lol, ichkeria, it's not naomi's thread

[jno]

have they been doing that, MartinMillar? I didn't realise (though I suppose you wouldn't if you didn't work for them). Anyone can be a scapegoat these days, I guess: civil servants, PHE, rebellious youth....

[ichkeria]

“ lol, ichkeria, it's not naomi's thread”

I’m sure she’d agree though ;-)

[MartinMillar]

Yes jno our department has just opened a new building this year with only enough seats for 50% of the workforce and its being repeated in each of the 16 hubs that have replaced all our old buildings

[Cloverjo]

When my son started working for his previous employer everyone had to compete for the ‘proper’ desks while the ‘unlucky’ ones worked with their laptops elsewhere, like in the kitchen.

People like their spaces.

[naomi24]

Ichkeria, //I’m sure she’d agree though ;-) //

I do ... absolutely! One of the best 'Best Answers' ever! :o)))

[Deskdiary]

It was a great answer, but even though it is astonishingly obvious, people will argue against it, and indeed on other threads when the interdependency has been pointed out, people have disputed it, and unless they really are so blind that they really can’t see what is so achingly obvious (and such a lack of foresight is worrying), then they must be wilfully not ‘getting it’, and I can’t work out which is worse.

[Deskdiary]

Here we go; I know it's The Daily Moan so some people will dismiss it out of hand, but here is interdependency in action.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8722111/Quiet-streets-Gatwick-ghost-town.html

Crawley, which to be fair is a dump of unimaginable proportions, relies on Gatwick as the major local employer. Redundancies at Gatwick will and are having an effect on Crawley businesses.

I wouldn't have thought this simple concept would be too hard to understand, but if this thread is anything to go by it is for some.

[allenlondon]

Deskdiary. You want to follow the party line on this one (how dreadful it is working from home, small supply companies closing in droves, thousands more out of work, and so on and on).

I’m asking you to take a tiny step sideways and think.

Our economy is being shaken up, and we are being given the time and impetus to consider our working lives more objectively.

Many jobs aren’t necessary; many aren’t even useful.

Face up to that, and we might be able to start rebuilding a better society.

[Peter Pedant]

// Ichkeria, //I’m sure she’d agree though ;-) //
I do ... absolutely! One of the best 'Best Answers' ever! :o)))//
cue screams of "I am being harassed! People can only say what I say they can say!"

[Peter Pedant]

where's moosheh?
they had offices and kept them ( rather than horse drawn drays or gas lighting) because they worked and led to increased productivity innit?

[Peter Pedant]

in that.....
when bill gates said Microsoft was paperless
no paper in the offices
people started keeping document in their boots of cars
oops trunks
because the innocation clearly DIDNT work

[Peter Pedant]

innovation not inoculation

[mushroom25]

// Many jobs aren’t necessary; many aren’t even useful. //

can you validate that statement with some exampled evidence?

[rockyracoon]

// Many jobs aren’t necessary; many aren’t even useful. //
Of course they are, they earn the government tax, which you know, runs the country, the NHS, pays for pensions and benefits so on and so forth

[naomi24]

Allen, I’ll echo Mushroom’s question. Which jobs aren’t necessary or useful? Additionally if those jobs were no more, to ensure that the current holders remained in gainful employment, what new jobs would you introduce?

[ichkeria]

“ I do ... absolutely! One of the best 'Best Answers' ever! :o))) “

Thank you :-)
And just helping allen reach 200 replies ;-)