The Union

[Ric.ror]

How important is it?
I live in England and I don’t see how devolution with any of the 2 nations will make any great impact on my life (I appreciate NI is a different situation).

[Sunk]

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https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/brexit/7789899/spain-claim-scotland-could-rejoin-eu-brexit/

[ToraToraTora]

untitled, "England & Wales will be surrounded on all sides by the European Union... how humiliating. " - how so? Switzerland seem be largely un humiliated.

[ToraToraTora]

if you are talking about Humiliation then I suggest you look at the contortions Scotland will have to perform to gain entry to the EUSSR.

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Switzerland hasn’t fallen apart

[ToraToraTora]

neither has the UK.

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Oh for goodness sake tora...

[ToraToraTora]

please explain what has "fallen apart"?

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You were asking me why a hypothetical future would be humiliating Tora not about the present. It helps to engage brain before typing!

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“ England & Wales will be surrounded on all sides by the European Union... how humiliating. " - how so? Switzerland seem be largely un humiliated.”

Reply - “ Switzerland hasn’t fallen apart”

Goodness just... just try to think, please.

[New Judge]

//In that case it is by no means implausible that leftover England & Wales will be surrounded on all sides by the European Union... how humiliating.//

Why do you believe that not being a member of the EU is somehow "humiliating"? Around 93% of the world's population live in the 86% of the world's nations that are not in the EU. Should they all feel similarly humiliated?

[ToraToraTora]

just stop it with your anti British BS, eevn if 8% of the UK leave that still won't constitute "falling apart" derr!

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I’m arguing in favour of Britain!

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Having two of the UK’s four constituent countries flip and join the EU which we worked so hard to leave would be pretty embarrassing... assuming one is capable of that emotion of course!

[ToraToraTora]

untitled: "I’m arguing in favour of Britain! " - have a day off, you are an anti British lefty who gets his rocks off on dissing the nation. You are transparent my son.

[ToraToraTora]

which two would that be?

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Scotland and Northern Ireland

“Anti-british” is nothing but a brainless slack-jawed response from a stupid bully who has run out of things to say... you use it for everything. I care about Britain deeply and I am very glad to come from here... so much so that I am deeply distressed by the prospect of the country breaking up.

[ToraToraTora]

untitled: "I care about Britain deeply " - you've a funny way of showing it! PMSL!

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Indeed, by supporting the Union... who’d have thought it? How anti british of me ;)

[Ellipsis]

> all please read Ellpsis, post at 15:12 it really does explain it quite well

Thanks, Tora!

> To be honest ellipsis I don't think I realised quite what the union meant to me until it was under threat

Yep well me too. In fact I think we somehow, over the next several hundred years, need to get to "United Planet of Earth". But it seems unlikely when the direction of travel is the opposite of that.

[Sunk]

I have been reading Tora and his very many aliases for too many years, and still he trots out the same carp.
UK (meaning England) can leave the Union (EU) and be better and conquer the world.
If Scotland leave the Union (UK), then that is a massive betrayal, and he wishes them ill, and economic collapse.

Hopefully, the more sensible ABers wish the UK to remain intact and mighty, not broken up and weakened as Tora wants.