Plymouth shooting

[ToraToraTora]

https://news.sky.com/story/significant-ambulance-response-deployed-to-incident-in-plymouth-12379946

[ABSpareEditor]

Title edited. ToraToraTora, stop baiting.

[pastafreak]

Thank you Ed.

[Stickybottle]

Surprised that his recent posts on social media that the BBC showed we’re not flagged to the police given that he had a firearms certificate
Tighter gun laws and rules and criteria must follow even though it sounds like the firearm he used would be illegal for him to own

[wolf63]

Corby ☺☺☺

[Gromit]

At least seven mass murders resulting in 56 deaths have been committed by men connected to the incel community since 2014.

And it has happen here before. The murder of 2 sisters in Wembley Park last year was by an Incel follower.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/inside-dark-incel-cult-radicalised-24479573?1=

[Mozz71]

I'm starting to think that, as this thread has dried up since Spare Ed intervened, most of the people who were posting before really give a damn about the incident if it doesn't further their own little agendas.

Five people, including a little girl, murdered and this is all ABers can manage. Shocking and pitiful, but not particularly surprising.

RIP to those lost and condolences to all affected.

[THECORBYLOON]

MOZZ, to be fair, this thread was prompted by TORATORATORA's bigotry and many have been posting to call him out on that.

That in no way detracts from the tragedy and the wider impact it has on the families and friends of those involved

[jno]

Mozz, while I agree with you, the business of automatically attributing all serious crimes to Muslims needs addressing too - and that's what this thread did, though in dog-whistle fashion before it was amended by the Spare Ed. So the people with agendas were I think responding properly to the OP for better or worse.

It might have been better to remove this thread, or at least close it, and leave Pasta's more serious thread open.

[Prudie]

Assuming before the facts are known that an event like this is terror related is no more bigoted than always assuming and being desperate it isn't - and there are plenty of ABers who follow the latter trait. As the facts emerge this may not be what TTT was hinting at but it's certainly got links to extreme ideologies. Same thing really.

[naomi24]

Crikey gromit! You were moaning at me for posting a link to the Express as beneath your intelligence or some such nonsense - and now you’re offering the Mirror!

Apart from finding it horrific I don’t really know what anyone expects to be said about this shooting at the moment.

[Mozz71]

I agree wholeheartedly with that last sentence jno. I know it's tempting to highlight Tora's bigotry, heaven knows I've done it plenty in the past, it just gives him chance to argue his point. Best ignore him and not feed that particular troll.

Anyhoo, that's all I'm saying on the matter or I risk reawakening the monster.

[naomi24]

Prudie, I agree with you. Odd how some extreme ideologies appear to attract a degree of protection and some not.

[Gromit]

Odd how some were eager to post about Islamic terror, and then don’t say a word of condemnation when they learn it was done by a far right Incel nutter.

[anneasquith]

What is this threads topic.? The tragedy of the killings or whose side you are on re premature assumptions ?

[Gromit]

I see that many of the answers have now been deleted, so those who posted blatant islamaphobic nonsense can breathe a sigh of relief.

Along with the thread title being amended so that many of the remaining answers now make little sense.

At least some of this thread still remains, and has not been deleted and quietly forgotten.

[ABSpareEditor]

Please keep the thread on topic.