Fascist left bullies.....

[Loosehead]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles /columnists/columnists.html?in_page_id=1772&in _article_id=431502&in_author_id=322
Ok I know its the Mail and worse Littlejohn so I expect all the lefties out there to be spitting out their organic muesli but are there un truth's in what has says? It just seems uncannily accurate to me, are we being ruled by a totalitarian "diversity" mafia? Are we victims of the "Garbage Gestapo" etc?

[Theland]

In my opinion, the most intolerant within our society, are those who preach tolerance like a religion!

There is no room for diversity of opinion, no time for those who, like me, believe in some things being right, and others plain wrong.

Homosexuals adopting children is in my opinion not the best option for the child, and I disagree with abortion on demand, and multiculturalism.

So, the "tolerant" fraternity will be extremely intolerant of my views, and I agree with Littlejohn on this.

[jake-the-peg]

What a pile of manure!

A mixture of prejudice, half-truth and undisguised hatred.

No wonder Nick Griffin, leader of the BNP described Richard Littlejohn as his favorite columnist.

Still with a bit of luck if enough of the Mail readers listen to him they'll vote BNP and UKIP and split the Tory vote at the next election.

Go Richard!!!!!

[Loosehead]

Just tell us which bit's are untrue jake! It just seemed an accurate account of what is occuring these days.

[youngmafbog]

Jake, I cant see what you are basing your statements on. Love him or Loath him (LittleJohn) he does make some very valid points.
Perhaps you would enlighten us with some facts?

[Lonnie]

Littlejohn does tend to use the language of the rabblerouser, but what he says is generally very accurate, and this article is no exception.

He's right.

[WaldoMcFroog]

Littlejohn, exactly like Burchill, is paid huge amounts of money to be as 'controvertial' as possible in order to inflame the passions of dullards and the truth be damned.

I'm astonished anyone falls for such obvious and cynical manipulation.

[Loosehead]

same question to you Waldo, which bits are untrue?

[IggyB]

which bits are true?
seems like a load of rubbish to me - and not even very well written rubbish at that

*spits organic muesli on keyboard*

[sp1814]

Here goes:

The piece starts with putting 'rights' when referring to gay rights in quotes.

Why is that I wonder?

they reserve their hatred and intimidation not for anyone who looks or talks differently, but for those who have the audacity to think differently

Unlike Mr Littlejohn eh?

Yet they have no problems with adoption agencies refusing to place black and mixed-race children with white couples

Many adoption agencies take the view that it generally in the child's best interests to offer adoption to 'matching' racial groups. Look at what happened to poor old Madonna when she adopted an African child!!!

Plenty of prospective adoptive parents are rejected for being too middle class, too affluent, too old, living in the wrong postcode

Any evidence of this? Too middle class??? Where does he get these ideas. Perhaps Mr Littlejohn needs to get out of Derry Street once in a while and speak to people who aren't journalists!

[WaldoMcFroog]

It's like a conspiracy theory. No, scratch that. It's not *like* a conspiracy theory, it is one. Since you're normally so anti-conspiracy theories, I'm surprised you can't see it for yourself.

Spurious logic, leaps of logic, bogus connections between items, appeals to authority, straw men, inductive reasoning, appeals to fear etc etc. It's simply execrable.

[sp1814]

I can't imagine many of his former members at the Mount Pleasant sorting office marching on Parliament in support of forcing adoption agencies to hand over Catholic orphans to homosexuals

Deliberately inflammatory statement.

What we're talking about is simple non-discriminatory policies which are being proposed by a democratically elected political party.

[sp1814]

Back to Mr Littlejohn -

But no, anyone who has reservations about the wisdom of placing vulnerable children with homosexuals or lesbians is damned as a swivel-eyed 'homophobe' - even if they have no problem with much of the 'gay rights' agenda, such as civil partnerships.

What kind of rubbish is he talking here? I don't get what he's trying to say. What? that gay men and lesbians are just chomping at the bit to mess up the lives of those kids that are put in their charge?

Does he think that adoption agencies are just going to farm out kids without checking the backgrounds of prospective adopters?

Littlejohn...amazingly powerful journalist.

The Reni Liefenstahl of Fleet Street.

[Loosehead]

Well without getting into all the subject matters individually I do think that there are examples of the sort of "couldn't make it up" stupidity that make it to the public eye. They are then focused on but surely if they where untrue then libel cases would be going on left, right and centre. For example there have over the years been cases of adoptive families being refused for being overweight. Then there's the council that stopped hanging baskets being put on "Lighting columns" (lamp posts) for H+S reasons. Let us not forget the Garbage gestapo issuing yellow stickers threatening fines etc, and I've seen them in my own area! I suppose I'm saying, yes the tabloid columists make a meal of it but you can't dine on what isn't there!

[Ctrak]

Being the Daily Mail, it's naturally *****...thing is, so many of these claims aren't remotely substantiated...

How is Britain now "totalitarian"? Hitler had the concentration camps, Stalin had the GULAG system, and we have...?

He accuses the government of "bullying" the Catholic Church into these new gay rights laws...so their bigotry was OK then? They had a "right" to it?

[sp1814]

Loosehead

When you talk about those garbage fines, are you talking about the situation where people who don't recycle are issued with warnings that they could be fined?

Not putting words into your mouth...just asking.

If this is the situation, then I think fines are appropriate...how else are people going to be encouraged to recycle?

It's a bit like the introduction of seat belts. Unpopular at the time, and an 'infringement on personal liberties', but in the end, a good thing.

[Loosehead]

Yes I am and I know what you mean about the recycling bit, fair enough. I do agree with he recycling push so I suppose that was a bad example on my part. I think the overall point is the the total disdain that people are treated with if they fail to buy into the whole "we know what's best" mantra.

[jake-the-peg]

The favourite trick seems to be to pick something with a grain of truth and exagerate it.

Take the bit about 4x4s, general environmental concerns and higher taxes for less fuel efficient cars - some people denuncing their drivers.

But according to Littlejohn New Labour approves of environmentalists smashing them up!

Sorry must have missed that press conference on Labour policy!

It's the same thing all the way through, distort and amplify, distort and amplify! and then appeal to the boundless cynicism of the British public!

Classic propaganda and long may he continue! the more Tory voters he drives to the right the better I like it.

UKIP have Cameron rattled "fruitcakes and loonies" wasn't it he called them?

Now if we can just get Littlejohn to concentrate on Europe where his mouth does the most good

[sp1814]

I won't disagree with you on the 'we know best' thing.

I'll go as far as to say that I feel the same whenever I see local government officers spouting off about some new 'initiative' which they've dreamt up in some town hall which has no bearing on real life or addresses local issues.

So there...we have (almost) got some common ground.

I knew it had to happen one day.

[admarlow]

This site is a microcosm (sp!!) of the UK today and to express a very any farther right that tree hugging far left is instantly jumped upon by doogooders as racist etc!!! Thank gods that (at the moment) it is just an over repersented loud mouth minority. I only hope that when it matters people will stand up and be counted on the issues that matter and not be intimidated my this very small section of society.

[sp1814]

admarlow

I'd disagree...I honestly, honestly, honestly think that the old left/right divide has got blurred.

You have left wing racists and right wing environmentalists. I see it every day at work...

I think it's issues which unite people nowadays rather than party political associations.

(that "left wing racists and right wing environmentalists" might not be the best example of how the lines have been blurred, but you see what I mean, don't you?)