All Straight White Men Are.....

[ToraToraTora]

...sexist, racist, Homophobes.......Right oh!
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Ud_U6m8TVb8

[ToraToraTora]

AH: "The clip we see is of PM riding roughshod over a studio guest, in his usual fashion, without giving her chance to explain what she has said. " - at the start of the clip PM quotes her as saying that white straight men are "socialised" to be sexist, racist and Homophobic. She affirms that. What's to explain?

[ladybirder]

Because she didn't say, "ALL men ...".

Whether she meant ALL men is up to us to decide I suppose.

[ToraToraTora]

yes he did, he affirms PMs reading of what was said right at the beginning of the clip.

[andy-hughes]

She says 'Not all white people are racist ... '.

That doesn't tie with what you think she said.

May I suggest you listen again ...

[ladybirder]

Is that to me or TTT Andy?

[ToraToraTora]

AH: " he says 'Not all white people are racist ... '. " - that's later when he is back tracking

[ToraToraTora]

once again....//at the start of the clip PM quotes him as saying that white straight men are "socialised" to be sexist, racist and Homophobic. He affirms that. // - He affirms what PM said, no arguments, only later does the qualification creep in.

[ToraToraTora]

12:48, well 12:32 was to you but it applies equally to AH.

[andy-hughes]

TTT - // AH: " he says 'Not all white people are racist ... '. " - that's later when he is back tracking //

That's in response to Susanna Reid's question - the very first response she gives, so she has hardly had time to be 'backtracking', or has yet said anything to 'backtrack' from.

You need to listen to the whole clip, and not do what Piers Morgan is doing - hear what you you want to hear that you think backs up your point.

[ToraToraTora]

no YOU need to watch the clip from the very start:
\\once again....//at the start of the clip PM quotes him as saying that white straight men are "socialised" to be sexist, racist and Homophobic. He affirms that. // - He affirms what PM said, no arguments, only later does the qualification creep in. \\

[andy-hughes]

TTT - // no YOU need to watch the clip from the very start:
\\once again....//at the start of the clip PM quotes him as saying that white straight men are "socialised" to be sexist, racist and Homophobic. He affirms that. // - He affirms what PM said, no arguments, only later does the qualification creep in. \\ //

Fair enough - conceded.

But to return to the crux of your OP - Your Op states -

'' All Straight White Men Are ... sexist, racist, Homophobes ... Right oh!"

But in posting that, you are doing exactly what Piers Morgan did, you are hearing what you want to hear, because that is not what was actually said.

What is actually said - and this is from your quote at 11.01 -

// white straight men are "socialised" to be sexist, racist and Homophobic. He affirms that. // - He affirms what PM said, no arguments, only later does the qualification creep in. \\

And that is a subtle, but vitally important difference.

Saying that a section of society are 'socialised to behave in a certain way...' is not the same as saying that every single member of that section does behave in that way.

And that was what was repeated during the very few times when the guest was allowed to complete a sentence.

[ToraToraTora]

AH: "But in posting that, you are doing exactly what Piers Morgan did, you are hearing what you want to hear, because that is not what was actually said" - then why did he not correct PM at the very start instead of affirming?

[andy-hughes]

I have no idea - how could I!

[ToraToraTora]

....could it be that he agreed that all straight white men are racist, sexist homophobes then later realised how bigoted that made him look so backtracked?

[andy-hughes]

It could, but you'd have to ask the guest, mind reading is not one of my skills.