So What Is More Important, Equality For Women Or Appeasing Strict Muslims?

[youngmafbog]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3348606/Sharia-councils-Britain-lock-women-marital-captivity-not-officially-report-domestic-violence-says-academic.html

And why should they be allowed to override UK law(Yes I know they shouldnt)

It said the judge – known as a qadi – told the couple: ‘Secular judge does not do religious divorces. We have Islam. Secular courts do not have Islamic laws. Can a kaffir [non-Muslim] come in and judge Islamic matters?’

And isn't 'Kaffir' racist?

[Marshwarble]

Saying kaffir isn't racist, any more than saying gentile is racist.

[youngmafbog]

Selecting and using a term (in a derogatory manner) is often taken as offensive or racist on here.

So what's the difference with Kaffir.

I see you have chosen to ignore the question on how the ROP treats women.

[woofgang]

They don’t override UK law.

[naomi24]

If Muslims are married in an Islamic ceremony and without the benefit of an additional civil ceremony, which many are, the marriage isn't recognised in law and therefore divorce cannot be obtained through the law. Additionally, the evidence required when applying to a Sharia court for divorce is unequal for male and female and weighted heavily in favour of the male - naturally.

[youngmafbog]

So explain this then wolf

It said the judge – known as a qadi – told the couple: ‘Secular judge does not do religious divorces. We have Islam. Secular courts do not have Islamic laws. Can a kaffir [non-Muslim] come in and judge Islamic matters?’

[douglas9401]

I'll wear the 'kaffir' badge with pride thank you very much. It shows how far I've come in the journey out of the dank cesspit of the past.

[Baldric]

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/kaffir

[naomi24]

youngmafbog, woofgang is right. Islamic courts cannot and do not override the law of the land. In the case of religious marriage and divorce, the law of the land doesn't apply because the marriages aren't legal and are, therefore, not recognised in law. See my post at 13.25.

[ToraToraTora]

well generally anything is more important than our own way of life so F0CS/F0D/*** will generally support criminals and lowlives rather than the normal person in the street.

[woofgang]

Thank you naomi......isn’t this the umpty umpteenth time this has been pointed out?

[ichkeria]

Sharia law has some way to go to infiltrate the Daily Mail website.
Thank goodness, eh ...

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etc

[viv41]

I resent being called a kaffir.

[atalanta]

One big problem is that if a woman was married in a moslem ceremony not recognised by the law, she has to have a moslem divorce if she is to marry again.
Reminds us of the "agunot" of judaism

[woofgang]

Only if she wants to marry another moslem.

[Peter Pedant]

There all sorts of things wrong with this
but it us the DM - who have to sell newspapers ....

An arabist is gonna have to tell us if kafir has one 'f' in it or two.
[ written the same, but one has a shadda sign above it showing the f is doubled and I just cant be asked to go to a Koran and have a look )

I think kaffir with two is a Boer Dutch loan word and is insulting.
Not many of them - veldt, bray - for braaivleis - barbie and boss from baas meaning big-fella or capo or jefe.

but I could be wrong and it is the daily mail

O god and I havent even got onto Qadi
q is a sound we dont have - it is a 'k' sound made by your larynx only
the 'd' I think is a dhal which we just dont have - a stressed d kinda

the d frequenly mutates to a 'z'

Karzi - and yes Kenneth WIlliams and the Kazi of wherever is a mutated from of qadi meaning judge or big-fella

The things is you can agree to arbitration ( much cheaper ) and clearly the rules are gonna be different ( or else why have it ) - and the question then become if it is obviously unfair - what recourse do youhave - having agreed to go down the path - to the civil ( erm kafir ) courts

the DM being the Dm doesnt tell us ....

[ichkeria]

"Kafir/kaffir" in both senses comes from Arabic "an unbeliever"
Somehow it acquired an extra F for the South African version, and the current Moslem version can be one or two Fs. There is probably an interesting story behind how it got both meanings
"Kaffir" in S Africa is just about as big a no-no as you can get: it gets listed as "taboo" in Collins dictionary, along with the n word

[New Judge]

"...and yes Kenneth WIlliams and the Kazi of wherever...."

The Khasi of Kalabar, Peter. Don't forget his opposite number Sir Sidney Ruff-Diamond. And we mustn't overlook the delightful Angela Douglas as Princess Jelhi.

[sandyRoe]

Could a regiment of Devils in skirts bring an end to the unpleasantness in Syria?