The Eternal Wall Of Answered Prayer

[naomi24]

This huge structure being constructed in Birmingham is due to open in 2023. A survey carried out by the group responsible found that one third of people believe that prayer helps their mental well-being. What do you think?

https://www.eternalwall.org.uk/about-us


Something to get your teeth into, nailit. ;o

[Mamyalynne]

I can't speak for anyone else - I wouldn't object to a privately funded wall of prayer (or similar structure) by any Religion.

[douglas9401]

Some might say that their philanthropic compass was slightly off though, still, no pockets in a shroud.

[rowanwitch]

Haven't we got enough eyesores in Birmingham.

[rowanwitch]

Well in the Midlands as a whole. Seems wrong for the money to be spent this way rather than helping people. You can feed a lot of hungry people for the money they are spending, provide clean water, educate children,

[Mamyalynne]

One would need to investigate the philanthropy (or not) of those who have contributed - do they also give to causes such as you mention in addition to this one??

[rowanwitch]

It's still money that is better spent elsewhere, still historically the established churches have always been prone to displays of wealth, either in the items in the buildings, or the buildings themselves.

[Mozz71]

Unusually, when it comes to faith, I agree with Khandro on this one. It hurts nobody and if it gives solace to people, something that seems to be needed more than ever in these times, then all the better. As was previously said, it's a shame it's not a multi-faith object, but it is what it is.

[Peter Pedant]

// Haven't we got enough eyesores in Birmingham.//
bit of a cruel way to refer to the whole of the city of Birmingham
ter-daah !

[Mozz71]

Naiit //Wailing wall in Jerusalem...
Didnt that one work then?//

Bit of a trek if you're in Brum. This one is the equivalent of popping down your local.

[Peter Pedant]

// it's a shame it's not a multi-faith object, but it is what it is.//

er they have multi faith spaces in hospitals....

[Mozz71]

//they have multi faith spaces in hospitals....//

So?

[Peter Pedant]

naomi can tell us
wailing wall isnt intercessionary is it

that is - they arent wailing because the prayers arent working ....I am not sure what you do if the prayers dont work - pray harder I suppose

BUT

Sta Teresa da Avila said ( thpanith of course ) there are more problem from prayers answered, than there are from unanswered prayers.
get off your knees and start doing something yourself I suppose.

and by golly she did: started off with a cart load of nuns and a donkey-teer leading them around the country. The muleteers it is recorded used to stop swearing at the donkeys when it was time for prayers - also demanded that the postulants ( learner drivers) brought in their dowries....

[Peter Pedant]

// //they have multi faith spaces in hospitals....//
So?
so there is no doctrinal reason for exclusion/exclusivity, just choice.

[Mozz71]

It just would have been nice to see more inclusiveness. We seem to be severely lacking in that when it comes to religion.

[douglas9401]

Mozz, you can't make everything for everybody, that's not how the world works and why there are 'quiet spaces'.

[Mozz71]

I agree Douglas, you cant have everything for everybody, but this wall? This could've been for everybody.

[archibaldy]

Not a bad marketing stunt actually, and let's be fair 'answered prayers' is pure non-disprovable marketing, just like "1 million satisfied customers". Very little maintenance once installed and it will pull in the crowds - no doubt each QR code people link to will feature a nice easy way to donate with a suitably high 'default' donation like the one on the OP link of £75, and a minimum of £25. The more you pay the harder God listens.

I'm sure the owners are 'praying' for a Banksy to appear on there too.

[naomi24]

Prayer gives comfort and that’s no bad thing. As for the wall, it’s a positive symbol, the design of which I find quite pleasing. I’ve no objection to it and will certainly go to see it at some time. As for the notion that it should be ‘inclusive’, inclusivity is being forced on people who don’t necessarily want it so, on principle, I’m rather pleased it isn’t.

[Mamyalynne]

On the link provided,some of the questions posed here are touched on.

// Is Eternal Wall of Answered Prayer multi-faith?

Eternal Wall of Answered Prayer will be a piece of public art about Jesus. It is open for everybody to visit and enjoy.

The UK is incredibly diverse. We believe a multi-faith society is about having the freedom for each faith to express their beliefs. To that end, Eternal Wall of Answered Prayer will include an exhibition within which there will be the opportunity for other faiths to express their view on prayer.//

// How is spending this much money justified?
Once Eternal Wall of Answered Prayer is operational it will generate significant income to continue to invest into social housing and other charities. For every brick in Eternal Wall, we will be putting another brick into social housing. //



Additional funds will also be donated to charities and good works with a minimum of 10% donated to local projects. In the first 20 years, we expect Eternal Wall to generate over £30M for charities and good works.

Archibaldy - on the Donations section you can chose to donate any amount using the both marked 'other' if you wish.

[archibaldy]

Thanks Mamyalynne I didn't see that, makes sense not wanting to price anybody out ;)