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well gmh, the only probs i have with the tight jodpurs is that i have to pay for them,and most of the time my luvly wife wears a pair of old joggers with an old jacket for mucking out (not very romantic), oh they also stink, but not to worry "show days are brill" when she is in the full dress ie jodpurs show jacket tight blouse long leather boots etc, but guess what, she is so tired after the shows she goes straight to sleep, ( THATS AFTER FEEDING AND GROOMING HER HORSE), OH WELL HOPE IM REINCARNATED AS SOME LOVABLE HORSE, HO HO, thanks for your reply, john.