Ebola Nurse

[237SJ]

I always figured that she was a bit short on the truth when she travelled back to LHR but I am surprised that she is still being investigated about it. Do you think that she has suffered enough?

[237SJ]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-37121505

[jno]

sounds like a waste of public money to me. How are they going to punish her for (allegedly) not saying she'd taken paracetamol? Fine? Sturuck off? What's the point? They've already invaded her privacy by making the charges public "accidentally".

[Mamyalynne]

Bad show that all this has been made public inadvertently in advance, let's wait ti see what decision the inquiry reaches.

[Mamyalynne]

^ to see

[mastercraft]

She probably has. But she shouldn't have told lies that could threaten lives.

[EDDIE51]

Read Sqad's post in the 'Related Questions' below.
I agree 100% , she had come back from prolonged close contact with Ebola cases in Sierra Leone yet she was not put into quarantine !! Why not?
A stay in quarantine would have prevented any chance of spreading the disease and made sure she got treatment at the very first sign of symptoms.Which would have made her treatment a lot faster and lessened the complications.

[youngmafbog]

You should not tell lies if lives are at risk.

But it should not be made public.

[douglas9401]

Incompetents circling the wagons, as usual.

The news told us of bleeding eyes and generally turning to liquid in the blink of an eye but a person working with infected people was allowed to stravaig about the place like a modern day Typhoid Mary, no quarantine period.
Those in charge of such things should be identified and made to resign, but they won't.

[andy-hughes]

i would guess that, even if the charges are found to be proved, any punishment meted out to a nurse who is only in this situation because she was saving lives, and given her high public profile, would be seen as utterly draconian.

That's not to say that punishment is not valid - but public perception is everything in these issues, and the image damage caused by seeming to be high-handed and officious will be far greater than any good that may come of the punishment.

For that reason, I think that once all the boxes are ticked, this will be quietly forgotten.

[vulcan42]

What am I missing here? She is being accused of concealing her temperature but Public health England screening staff took her temperature, so how was it concealed?

[andy-hughes]

Vulcan - //What am I missing here? She is being accused of concealing her temperature but Public health England screening staff took her temperature, so how was it concealed? //

The lady is accused of not advising that she had taken Paracetamol, which could have affected the reading by lowering her temperature.

[Baldric]

///The NMC has now released the full charges, which allege Ms Cafferkey did not tell Public Health England screening staff who took her temperature at the airport that she had recently taken paracetamol.
She is also said to have left the area without reporting her true temperature.///

Doesn't come across as being the correct actions of a Medical Professional to me.

[vulcan42]

Thank you andy-hughes, I haven't used paracetamol for years, so forgot it lowered temperature as well as lowering pain.

[Peter Pedant]

jno - tush - NMC run by subs from the nurses themselves

AND you cant refuse to answer questions as it is not a criminal thingey so the fifth amendment isnt open to you ( or English equiv )

and the NMC sole criteria ( they will give out some *** that they have to investigate every complaint - and in the past a piece in the News of the Screws has been taken as a complaint ) is whether that nurse's standard of practice could be impaired

and yes it is OK that this length of time is taken ( Hiem v GMC I think ) coz it is in the public interest you see. Anything less than two years is deffo OK and many cases more than two years. World record ten I think ( Matta I think)

and yes very early on
people noticed that she had got very unwell ( from "well" on entry at London) to being unwell far too quickly
[ like you know she knew she was unwell when she flew ]

and that paed who knew he 'had it' flew to ?Liberia and took it with him and caused a few thousand avoidable deaths - he died.

and yes the charges were mistakenly uploaded to the NMC site yesterday
but there is no purchase for the defence in that

O and jno is partially right
the NMC ran itself so badly - that it was £60m in deficit and applied to the govt for 'relief' and got it
but now the minister rings up ( or a flunky ) and it is now all - "yes minister and no minister yes today sir"
and none of this "we are an independent quasi legal regulator what on earth are you doing interfering ?"

[ yeah I seem to know an awful lot about the finances of the NMC, innit ?]

[murraymints]

she acted in a highly irresponsible way and put the entire nation at risk..she should be struck off and slammed up !!

[Peter Pedant]

// That's not to say that punishment is not valid //

yes I am afraid to say - it IS to say that punishment is invalid

this is a practice hearing and whether her (standard of practice ) is impaired.
Punishment is NOT what is required but protection of the public. ( I cant remember wh case that was - Bolton v Law Society I think -it doesnt matter no one looks up the cases I quote )

but good news pinko leftie bleeding heart liberals .....

the NMC is obliged ( Cohen v GMC I think ) to connsder whether the nurse's standard of practice is impaired on the day of HEARING and NOT on the day the alleged lapse ( day of entry to London ) occurred

it is the only case the High Court of London has decided in the accused practitioners favour that has put pressure on the licensing authorities to get off their arrisses and hear cases.

Oh,can you be struck off before the case is heard ? yes that is the Interim Orders Committee - - the cases before Hiem were taking such a bloody long time ( two to ten years ) that the High Court said - yes yes it is ok to put in restrictions on practice BEFORE the case has been heard for public safety. The nurse in question has had one - last year - and has continued with no restrictions on practice

and none of this folks is paid for by the tax payer ....

[Peter Pedant]

// she acted in a highly irresponsible way and put the entire nation at risk..she should be struck off and slammed up !!//

blimey I dont often say this:

thank god we have the NMC and not a big Bruvva show with tele voting !