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'Czech Trump' storms to victory: Billionaire anti-EU populist wins election with a huge margin in the Czech Republic
oh dear Junker wont be happy, I wonder if he will demand the Czech's has a re-run?
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oh dear Junker wont be happy, I wonder if he will demand the Czech's has a re-run?
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“2 thirds of the country didn't vote for him.”
In most countries where there are more than two parties it is highly likely that the party securing the most votes will be chosen by a minority of the electorate. It happens in the UK frequently and it is unhelpful to say (for example) that as 57.6% of voters did not vote Tory their government has no legitimacy. Governments are formed under the prevailing rules and Mr Babis is likely to be asked to form a government.
However, if the Austrian experience is anything to go by he had better watch his step. In 2000 the Austrian government was formed of a coalition and in that coalition were a number of MPs (or whatever they call them in Austria) from a party that campaigned for a restriction in immigration and who were staunchly anti-EU. They had been properly elected and had broken no laws. The EU responded by imposing sanctions on Austria for about a year. Their recent election has left them in a similar position. There is now a likelihood that a coalition will be formed with members of the same party joining the government. The Euromaniacs have responded with veiled threats and has “encouraged” Austria to form a government which “respects European values” (that is, to agree to the EU’s point of view on everything). So, stand by for some reaction from Junckers and Co. because they cannot bear the thought of voters choosing a government which is not 100% on message with the European Project.
Despite being benefitting considerable from the EU’s munificence with other people’s money the Czechs have clearly had enough of being told what to do by unelected foreign civil servants. Hopefully another worm has turned against that vile institution.
In most countries where there are more than two parties it is highly likely that the party securing the most votes will be chosen by a minority of the electorate. It happens in the UK frequently and it is unhelpful to say (for example) that as 57.6% of voters did not vote Tory their government has no legitimacy. Governments are formed under the prevailing rules and Mr Babis is likely to be asked to form a government.
However, if the Austrian experience is anything to go by he had better watch his step. In 2000 the Austrian government was formed of a coalition and in that coalition were a number of MPs (or whatever they call them in Austria) from a party that campaigned for a restriction in immigration and who were staunchly anti-EU. They had been properly elected and had broken no laws. The EU responded by imposing sanctions on Austria for about a year. Their recent election has left them in a similar position. There is now a likelihood that a coalition will be formed with members of the same party joining the government. The Euromaniacs have responded with veiled threats and has “encouraged” Austria to form a government which “respects European values” (that is, to agree to the EU’s point of view on everything). So, stand by for some reaction from Junckers and Co. because they cannot bear the thought of voters choosing a government which is not 100% on message with the European Project.
Despite being benefitting considerable from the EU’s munificence with other people’s money the Czechs have clearly had enough of being told what to do by unelected foreign civil servants. Hopefully another worm has turned against that vile institution.
Yes he's a fraudster all right.
But in fairness there is only one Donald Trump. ANO 2011 is a centrist party, and in many ways Babis has followed the Macron path. The stuff about immigration is a bit of a red herring: all the parties in the Czech election were concerend about immigration: it is an issue there as it is in most places. There are basically two sorts of response: how can we deal with it and preserve our institutions and reform them as they need reforming, because ultimately we are better served by being in an EU, and of course there's the nationalist, separatist, in some cases racist response which actuallu hopes that issues like immigration will cause up all to retreat into our corners. Following that agenda will lead to worse problems.
Mr Babis, and for that matter Herr Kunz, are of the former persuasion not the latter
But in fairness there is only one Donald Trump. ANO 2011 is a centrist party, and in many ways Babis has followed the Macron path. The stuff about immigration is a bit of a red herring: all the parties in the Czech election were concerend about immigration: it is an issue there as it is in most places. There are basically two sorts of response: how can we deal with it and preserve our institutions and reform them as they need reforming, because ultimately we are better served by being in an EU, and of course there's the nationalist, separatist, in some cases racist response which actuallu hopes that issues like immigration will cause up all to retreat into our corners. Following that agenda will lead to worse problems.
Mr Babis, and for that matter Herr Kunz, are of the former persuasion not the latter
// what with civil war looming in Spain and the new Austrian government, Hungary building fences, looks like the EUSSR may be slowly coming apart at the seams. //
The Spanish Government and the Catalans are both pro EU, ignoring the civil war nonsense.
Sebastian Kurzin Austria is pro EU, having chaired the Council of Europe and supporting Croatia’s EU bid.
The Spanish Government and the Catalans are both pro EU, ignoring the civil war nonsense.
Sebastian Kurzin Austria is pro EU, having chaired the Council of Europe and supporting Croatia’s EU bid.
Here is Babis's Wiki entry....he is hardly unblemished, is he ?
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Gromit; //The Spanish Government and the Catalans are both pro EU//
That is a sweeping statement, the Madrid government may be pro EU, but at lot of Spaniards, like the populations everywhere in Europe are not. What is more, if Catalonia were to somehow leave Spain they would automatically leave the EU, just as Scotland would have done.
That is a sweeping statement, the Madrid government may be pro EU, but at lot of Spaniards, like the populations everywhere in Europe are not. What is more, if Catalonia were to somehow leave Spain they would automatically leave the EU, just as Scotland would have done.
"◾The election outcome, the result of popular discontent with established parties, is the latest in a recent wave of successes for European populists, including in Austria and Germany. The populist ascendancy highlights a shifting political landscape in Europe where runaway multiculturalism and political correctness, combined with a massive influx of unassimilable migrants from Africa, Asia and the Middle East, have given rise to a surge in support for anti-establishment protest parties."
Gatestone, today
Gatestone, today
"What is more, if Catalonia were to somehow leave Spain they would automatically leave the EU,"
Which is the chief reason why they won't leave. Catalan indepence aspirations are based largely on sentimentality and historic animosity to the Spanish state. Fine reasons, but not really enough. But it is why the Spanish goverment needs to tread carefully and sensibly.
Which is the chief reason why they won't leave. Catalan indepence aspirations are based largely on sentimentality and historic animosity to the Spanish state. Fine reasons, but not really enough. But it is why the Spanish goverment needs to tread carefully and sensibly.
"Who is 'Herr Kunz'? "
Kurz, not Kunz sorry (I was no doubt thinking of Stefan Kuntz, the poor lad)
He's the new Austrian PM who, amusingly, the Daily Express and co seem to think is some sort of rabid ultra right-wing racist. maybe it's the "right wing" and "Austrian" in the same sentence that spooks people given recent history :-) And the fact he's very young.
Kurz, not Kunz sorry (I was no doubt thinking of Stefan Kuntz, the poor lad)
He's the new Austrian PM who, amusingly, the Daily Express and co seem to think is some sort of rabid ultra right-wing racist. maybe it's the "right wing" and "Austrian" in the same sentence that spooks people given recent history :-) And the fact he's very young.
Khandro,
// the Madrid government may be pro EU, but at lot of Spaniards, like the populations everywhere in Europe are not. //
They are...
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// the Madrid government may be pro EU, but at lot of Spaniards, like the populations everywhere in Europe are not. //
They are...
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The world looks entirely different when not reading the fake news in the Express and Mail.
// Czech vote winner Babis wants active EU role, not favouring government with extremists //
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// Czech vote winner Babis wants active EU role, not favouring government with extremists //
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Interesting diagram by the Washington Post. Wonder how the same will look when it sinks in that their EU has lost one of it's cash cows ? Or how more marked the change if it becomes obvious that EU hardball negotiators achieved the played for failure to agree a deal and left them without even the €20b goodwill gesture.
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