Shortest Day?

[maggiebee]

Am I right in thinking today is the shortest day? Looking forward to the nights getting lighter

[AuntLydia]

Bainbrig -sorry but you are two months too late for the Pagan New Year which is celebrated at Samhain (pronounced sow-when) The ancient Celts regarded October 31, or Samhain , as the beginning of the New Year. ... “We gather here tonight to celebrate the passing of the Old Year and to welcome in the new.”

[bainbrig]

Not round here it's not.

[AuntLydia]

ok....happy new year ...lol!

[Prudie]

A total ahole ex has his birthday today. I hope he chokes on his cake.

[Jackdaw33]

Until the 18th C NYD was March 25th. When we changed from the Julian calendar to the Gregorian one we were 11 days behind. 2nd Sep 1752 was followed by 14th Sep. That is why the fiscal year ends on April 6th and not March 25th as before, because people thought they were losing out on 11 days. At the same time NYD was changed to January 1st.

[AuntLydia]

Jackdaw we were talking about 'ancient times'. Pagan religions do not follow man-made timetables -they go by the sun and the moon. The start of the New Year has, for many Pagan religions, been at Samhain, the Autumn Equinox, on or around 31st October.

[Theland]

Auntlydia - Pagan? Really? What do you get out of that?

[AuntLydia]

Theland I don't get anything out of it. Its a way of life not a religion for me. I'd gladly discuss it if you would like to open a thread on R&S :-)

[New Judge]

Although today is the Winter Solstice (that is, the shortest time between sunrise and sunset for those pedants pointing out (quite correctly) that all days are approximately 24 hours long) those wishing for “lighter mornings” will have to wait a little longer.

In London the length of the day today is 7hrs 49m 44secs. This is also the length of the day tomorrow (to the nearest second) though tomorrow is longer by

[New Judge]

[Let's try the entire post - it might make more sense]:

Although today is the Winter Solstice (that is, the shortest time between sunrise and sunset for those pedants pointing out (quite correctly) that all days are approximately 24 hours long) those wishing for “lighter mornings” will have to wait a little longer.

In London the length of the day today is 7hrs 49m 44secs. This is also the length of the day tomorrow (to the nearest second) though tomorrow is longer by

[New Judge]

AB does not like the mathematical sign for "less than". So:

Although today is the Winter Solstice (that is, the shortest time between sunrise and sunset for those pedants pointing out (quite correctly) that all days are approximately 24 hours long) those wishing for “lighter mornings” will have to wait a little longer.

In London the length of the day today is 7hrs 49m 44secs. This is also the length of the day tomorrow (to the nearest second) though tomorrow is longer by less than 1 second. However, whilst sunrise today is at 8:03am (to the nearest minute), the time the sun rises continues to get later until January 1st when it rises at 8:06am, You have to wait until January 11th before to see the sun rise earlier than it does today, when it rises at 8:02am. However, by then the length of the day has increased considerably to almost 8hrs 12mins with this increase being attributable to later sunsets, which get later by well over a minute a day.

A similar, though not quite pronounced, phenomenon occurs around the Summer Solstice in June but this time with the sunset. The latest sunset is not on 21st June but on 29th. The decrease in length of the day which occurs between 21st and 29th is down to later sunrises.

[Canary42]

///AB does not like the mathematical sign for "less than" ///

I think you will find Ab omits any text enclosed by less than and greater than signs.

I will give it a try, with [] as the control

Control: Happy Christmas to [all] Abers
Test: Happy Christmas to Abers

[Togo]

The Winter solstice is not always on the 21st Dec., but it does fall on that date mostly.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/winter-solstice-2018-why-are-days-so-short-this-time-of-year-and-why-do-we-celebrate-the-longest-night/ar-BBRdNhz?li=BBoPWjQ#image=BBnDimO|2

[New Judge]

Indeed, Togo. As your article explains the "Winter Solstice" is not a particular day but occurs at a specific time, usually on Dec 21st but sometimes a day or so either side. The Winter Solstice this year occurs at 10:22pm (GMT) tonight.

[New Judge]

BTW, thanks for the info, canary.

[SparklyKid]

Wow. I always thought the extra hours of daylight were not equal, ie, 2 mins mornings and 2 mins evenings. Big question, what time will dusk arrive on 8th Feb when I have my speed awareness course ?

[BANANASPLITS]

Prudie @14.57

Total class lol
Xxxxx

[New Judge]

Sunset on 8th February will be at 17:02, Sparkly. That's for London. A bit later if you're west and/or north of London, a bit earlier if you're east and/or south.

[AuntLydia]

17.04 taking your location as Cumbria

[Togo]

Bananasplits...…..I had a quick shufti to see if there was a birthday posted in chatterbunk. :))