Isn't Apostasy Punishable By Death In T R O P ?

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-dorset-68239004

perhaps fake apostasy is allowed.

[Peter Pedant]

Taqiyya holds a central place in Twelver Shia Islam.

oh dear punters, we didnt quite make that clear did we?

(so it is clear you can use taqiyya if a Sunni says to a Shia "I kill you now, as you are wrong kind of muslim")

ghat makes things QUITE different

[naomi24]

^It doesn't.

[Peter Pedant]

well it should. Rather than go over the usual, I have transcribed a letter in the Times.

Mary Kenny writes in the Times Dear Sir,

Motives for conversion to christianity have been ambiguous before. During the occupation years of 1940-4 in France, Catholic clergy, including nuns facilitated the baptism of Jewish individuals including young people and children in a vareity of cirmustances. Some  of those requesting baptism, were sincere converts, but many were probably seeking  seeking shelter from Nazi persecution.

Some young people, notably girls hidden in convents wanted to integrate withouther French  children and join in with communal rituals. Some Jewish families and groups were concerned about proselytism but  others hoped this option saved lives. Significantly the  number of converts reached a peak 1941-3, the worst years for deportations. 

Some clergy issued fake baptism certificates too. But  if they sincerely hoped this would save people from being deported, I would say we should applaud this gesture. Clergy have to proceed in good faith and we should  recognise the complexities that srise with conersion in a situation where people may feel desperate. Mary Kenny

Mary Kenny is famous but I cant remember how

 

[naomi24]

Tosh!

[Peter Pedant]

oh, OK then, I'll er tell the Editor of the Times - god you can have some really brainiac discussions on AB !

[naomi24]

You do that.