Sports drug cheats

[emmie]

do you reckon that the likes of Dwain Chambers should be allowed to take part in the Olympics. I don't, and anyone who has done it. It surely sends the wrong message, and those who don't do it must feel pretty hacked off.

[Slapshot]

How do you tell the difference between a drugs cheat and an athlete who isn't a drugs cheat????

Simple - one has been caught, the other hasn't

[emmie]

well I hope he gets beaten out of sight, and if he were to win, which i very much doubt, that would be tainted.

[Slapshot]

Every one looks up to the likes of Usain Bolt....what drug testing process does he go through??? Are the jamaican Authorities as rigorous as other countries??

Sport must be fair

[Brenden]

There have been quite a few Olympic medals withdrawn from the winners after drug tests, so I presume that medalists are tested - I hope so.

[Slapshot]

Problem is Brendan that doping is now such a big business they can be clean at a big games but have benefitted through their training cycles, it's a big big problem but it can only be addressed and dealt with properly if they start from a level playing field

[Frank97]

In cycling they can be tested any time any where, is this not the case with athletics as well?

[Slapshot]

Every major sport has the whereabouts program in place whereby the athletes (Whatever sport) need to make themselves available for an hour a day for the testers needs...three missed tests is an automatic 6 month ban. Problem with it is that so many sports pay lip service to it, football the biggest offender, tennis, athletics.....you name it.

Cycling is the one sport that is physically trying to do something about it but the corruption is rife their as well, right up to the very highest administrative levels of the sport. A certain retired American cyclist still pulls the strings!!

[Slapshot]

If anyone is interested this is the ruling....

http://www.tas-cas.or...ward20265820FINAL.pdf

[emmie]

a certain retired cyclist? i only know one American cyclist and that is Lance Armstrong.

[Slapshot]

Correct

[emmie]

ah!

[Slapshot]

His first tour in 1999 was won on drugs, Michael Ashenden the Cycling Authority's lead anti doping scientist proved this a couple of years back full story here:

http://nyvelocity.com...2009/michael-ashenden

He had tests covered up and backdated exemptions when he failed tests. He gave the then President of the UCI a $250,000 "Donation" to assist in the anti doping program for a piece of kit that cost about $50,000, the UCI can't find the rest of the money in it's accounts....Like football and Sepp Blatter there are certain individuals in cycling above the laws....now that's unfair

[Frank97]

I've never trusted that Armstrong was innocent, seems to me that nearly all the riders around him have been caught out as cheats yet he was a better rider but took nothing, yea right.

[emmie]

Isn't a terrible shame that those who do not take drugs to enhance their sporting prowess should be up against those that do, so the whole game, event gets tainted.

[Frank97]

Yes it is em!

[Slapshot]

I'm not convinced that anyone is completely clean, get hold of David Millar's book, it's an eye opener. Additionally the biggest part of the business these days is how to hide the drugs, masking them, to get the effects you need with a minimal risk. There's a thing called the Blood passport in Cycling all it does though is set a level that as long as the rider stays within a range he can effectively do what he wants.