Syria, What Would The West Acheve?

[ToraToraTora]

Appalled as I am with the goings on in Syria I can't help feeling that any intervention is futile, even if the current regime were displaced we'd just end up with another Taliban state. Similar to what happened with the Muja Hadeen in Afghanistan. I have, on here on several posts, said I am in favour of doing nothing and leaving them to it. My ire has mainly been aimed at the general political point scoring that the left have been unable to resist. So why don't we just ignore it and stop giving it the oxygen of publicity? The whole sorry mess is not worth a single civilised life.

[1ndex]

If we leave Syria rebels to their fate it might stop further insurgent conflict in the middle east.… its a gamble but the only course.

[Gromit]

The civil war in Syria is almost over. The rebels have been crushed all summer and are beaten except for a few pockets around Damascus. Assad has recaptured most of the towns that have fallen to the rebels over the past two years, and if we leave them alone, the whole thing will be over in a few weeks.

Just one problem. Assad wasn't supposed to win. The west have been financing the rebels from Saudi and supplying them with guns and bombs through Turkey. Our investment is down the toilet.

Hence, we have decided to try and stop the rebels losing, and to finally help them directly. Our ships were steaming to the area (stopping off a Gibralta) long before the alledged use of chemical weapons. Planes and men were being gathered on Cyprus long before Parliament was recalled. The decission for some kind of military engagement was taken weeks, if not months ago.

Unfortunately, the British people have lost its appetite for losing pointless expensive wars, and a small group of conservative MPs and Ministers were able to reign in Cameron. Blair faced a fare bigger rebellion in 2003 when 165 Labour MPs voted against the war. But Blair was aided by most of the Conservative Party who voted with him for war, and 10 years and 444 dead British personel later, there were very nearly enough of them to try and repeat the same mistake.

[naomi24]

The intervention of western countries will serve only to fuel further hatred towards the west - and that comes from all sides.

[Gromit]

// If we leave Syria rebels to their fate it might stop further insurgent conflict in the middle east //

But we want further insurgent conflict in the middle east. Well some of it. The US and the west have been encouraging anf arming the Arab Spring. In theory it gets rid of despots like Mubarek and Gadafi with our soldiers having to fight. Of course this is selective. We do not encourage insurgents in Bahrain and UAE because we already control those states.

[DrFilth]

and those in charge always tell the truth ? don't forget the liberty

[Gromit]

Should read: WITHOUT our soldiers having to fight....

[ichkeria]

There ought to be an "oil" version of Godwin's Law :-)

[naomi24]

^^ Indeed. Godwin's law is nonsense.

[Gromit]

Fender62
// Where are the Arab League? //

Wars don't come cheap, and Saudi and Qatar are footing the bill to oust Assad. If you are putting the money up, you don't actually want your own people any where near any danger.

The rest of the Arab League are busy trying to deal with conflgions in their own countries.

[tamborine]

If UK intervene in Syria then Egypt will expect same, maybe Palestine will kick off too, Israel, Jordan; the whole lot could blow into a repeat of Ottoman v Crusaders.

Best we keep our christian morals at home.

[Gromit]

// Best we keep our christian morals at home. //

We unburdened ourselves of our christian morals a long time ago.