I was driving my car from a place called Ddeiniolen over the moors in fog with no street lighting Helen wanted to drive the car, she had no licence & I said no, not in these condition, she kept on & on about driving until we had a Hong Dinger, instead of ending up in Bethesda went back to Bangor, that was the last time Helen & I met, I would not risk my or anyone's life just for someone to get her own way.