Independence

[maggiebee]

I am not for nuclear weapons or power stations , but the country to the south of mine likes them but not on their soil so I have to have them.

I want to be part of Europe but the country to the south of mine wanted to go it alone so I was forced to leave even though 62 percent voted to remain.

I respect my NHS and want to keep it in the public hands but the country to the south of mine wants to sell it to private sector I fear how people will pay for health care.

My country produces more energy than we need, but the country to the south of mine takes it to the national grid and charges me to use it then sells me back the same energy at the highest prices.

My country has plenty of fresh water and is in public hands the country to the south of mine has very little and its water is privately owned they want to take mine.

I have my own devolved parliament democratically elected but the country to the south of mine does not like it and interferes with it and wants to take away its powers.

The country to the south of mine has a government that I never voted for and my country has never voted for in 65 years but i have to live by what they say.

And you ask why I need independence.

[davebro3]

And what do your numerous English neighbours do for a crust?

[webbo3]

And where do they work^

[webbo3]

Maggiebee

\\I want to be part of Europe//

Ummm, you are.

[Neveracrossword]

The majority of Scots didn't want independence when they were asked, the minority who do are ... more vocal.

[Hazlinny]

17.27  Not all of them Prudie 😊

[Giggsie]

Davebro don't know the difference it makes but most are retired but 1 is an electrician another works in a place making things for a pipeline and the other still working is in an insurance office. 
neveracrossword if referring to me I don't want independence and I'm Scottish but the English neighbours voted yes. 
why do you think they are more vocal?
 

[Neveracrossword]

Giggsie, I wasn't meaning you, I was speaking generally. Those wanting independence are certainly more vocal on AB!  They certainly don't reflect the views of the majority of Scots.

[Giggsie]

I'm not bothered either way I like everybody I just get on with everyone. My English neighbours are all lovely people but they say same as of the Scot's. Don't know where this divide thing comes from. 

[davebro3]

//Don't know where this divide thing comes from.//

Well - there used to be an English National Party calling for a devolved English parliament but it didn't get the support of the voters that the SNP enjoys in Scotland so I think I DO know where the divide comes from!

As far as most of your English neighbours being retired I guess you'll be happy for your country to be the UK's old peoples' home?

[1ozzy]

//As far as most of your English neighbours being retired I guess you'll be happy for your country to be the UK's old peoples' home?//

And I'd guess England would be happy to be rid of the "old people burden "

[Mozz71]

I can't see a reason to keep any of the United Kingdom's constituent countries as part of the union if they choose not to be. If Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland want out, then off they pop.

[theshedman]

I agree Mozz but Scotland did have a vote on this and decided to stay in the Union.  

[ichkeria]

"but the country to the south of mine likes them but not on their soil so I have to have them"

There are nuclear power stations south of the country to the north.

[davebro3]

I think nuclear power stations are a good thing - we should have more of them! And apart from what they produce they provide quality employment opportunities for the local population.

[rowanwitch]

Once in a generation was the deal,   so in about another 10 years you should get another vote... But the deal should be clean break, no money from the rest of the uk,  if you produce or have  stuff we need you can sell it to us if you choose but from day one you have to be ready with your own currency  and be fully self supporting.   You will not be of much interest to the EU initially as you are unlikely to be a net contributor.    Of course it's unlikely you will be able to sustain the current spending (free university, free prescriptions,  and do you have free social care? Not sure about that one) without major taxation increases... But if it's what the majority vote for.

I wouldn't want to see the union break up, but times change.  

 

[Mozz71]

7:43. Ten years ago Shedman. Let them have another one. If they vote to stay in the union still, that's another ten years.

[youngmafbog]

Just go and good riddence, sick of the whining.

Give the English the vote and we can help you on your way.

[ToraToraTora]

funny how maggie seems to have abandonned her thread. Probably learned too many home truths.

[ToraToraTora]

Still no answers to the famous ten. I had hoped that some of our Calidonian members may have used the 3 years since I first asked these would have had time to formulate an answer.

[Chipchopper]

Can't we just live together ?