The Nietzsche's Birthday Stream Of Consciousness Thread

[joggerjayne]

So it's Nietzsche's birthday.

The genealogy of morality, ubermensch, Tristan, Parsifal, Wagner, later German leaders, Siegfried, Zarathustra, blah blah, yada yada.

Nietzsche tried to explain the Christian tendency towards asceticism.

And he declared that God Is Dead.

He had things in common with Wagner. It's hard to think of Tristan, or Parsifal, or Siegfried without superman. Yet he was ambivalent about Wagner and his heroes.

The concept of the superman, not the one with his pants on the outside, is one who has thrown off the instinct to conform or be guided, and lives an independent, and philosophical life. Personally, I think he copied that idea from Imanuel Kant, but we don't like Kant do we, coz he was a misogynist dick, so we can let Nietzsche have that one.

Later German leaders, you know, the vertically challenged one with the silly moistache, just misconstrued the idea of the superman. Nietzsche would have been really miffed.

Cast aside the Nietzsche Wagner Little Man With Moustache triangle, for it is a myth.

Nietzsche saw "eternal recurrence" as a way of judging one's strength of character, and attitude towards life. Clearly we all need the attitude of one who has cast off the shackles of the herd mentality. Think for yourself. Do not conform. Just be jolly. That's more or less his take on eternal recurrence.

And he wrote "The Gay Science" which makes him Brighton's favourite philosopher.

Not because it was about being gay. Because it was about an occult experience. And occult experiences are big around here, believe me. You can't buy a newspaper without having one. Especially if it's The Argus, which can seem a bit occult sometimes.

Anyway, happy birthday, Friedrich.

Even though you are, of course, dead. So ... so much for superman and eternal recurrence!

[woofgang]

There's nothing Nietzsche couldn't teach about the raising of the wrist.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_WRFJwGsbY

[LazyGun]

Excellent clip, Woofie :)

As for Nietzsche - sickly type whose tache scared women, apparently; Whose burial notes described him as "a known antichrist". I think he probably would have quite liked that description ;)

[jno]

the vertically challenged one with the silly moistache

same height as Churchill, actually.

[joggerjayne]

Very jolly, Woof.

And yes, he would have liked being an antichrist.

He proposed that God was dead because we had killed Him. Therefore God was not immortal in the traditional understanding.

So how could Nietzsche accept Him!

[joggerjayne]

Charlie Chaplin was he same height as Winston Churchill ???

[jno]

... and, curiously, Nietzsche

[jno]

Chaplin was German?

[joggerjayne]

Not Charlie Chaplin.

Albert Einstein.

:0)

[jno]

Einstein was only German for a while.

[emmie]

Churchill was 5ft 6", what he lacked in stature he made up in statesmanship.

[emmie]

Chaplin was shorter than Churchill,
Nietzsche now he was a bundle of laughs, as to Wagner, some good tunes but what a nob.

[joggerjayne]

When you say he was a nob ...

Okay, I mean I agree that there were some down sides to him.

But he did build Bayreuth.

Not personally, obviously.

[emmie]

he was a racist anti semite, a nasty piece of work. some of his music is sublime, but as a human being he was horrible

[emmie]

not exactly

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayreuth_Festspielhaus

[jomifl]

It is highly unlikely that Neitzche was the same height as Winston Churchill or Charlie Chaplin. It all depends on what system of measurement is used. Measured in microns, they may have been the same height on occasions but not all at the same time. Everything is relative, even Neitzche's thoughts..

[emmie]

there is debate on Chaplin s height, most info seems to around 5ft 4

[jomifl]

5 feet and 6 feet are 'around' 5 feet 4 inches :o)

[emmie]

Nietzsche's height according to one source says 5ft 8, according to same source same height as Hitler..

[emmie]

Chaplin was short, 5ft 4 is what various sites say, however i doubt if he cared. he was and still is the greatest silent movie actor of all time,

[jomifl]

So a person measured hitler and Neitzche with the same rule? amazing