Mps To Vote On Changes To Fox Hunting Laws

[mikey4444]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33440330

I know we have debated this before but MPs could be discussing this as early as next week. It will be interesting to see if here on AB, we split into our normal right/left fashion !

Message to Editor...can we have one of your little plebiscites on "Hunting with dogs please" ?

[ToraToraTora]

why? no changes needed, the great unwashed are happy it's illegal and the unspeakable can pursue the innedible safe in the knowledge that a prosecution is almost impossible. You have to hand it to his tonyness, he managed to keep everyone happy by banning it without banning it, genius!

[murraymints]

mikey..you said that twice !

[mikey4444]

I know MM...I thought I had posted the second one in Editors Blog !

[Khandro]

It's one of the few things Nigel Farage and I disagree on!
I have for ten years lived in the German countryside where there is no fox-hunting, and have barely seen a fox, and never a dead one by the roadside.
In England they are everywhere; bred in large numbers in order to become a 'problem' so that they can be hunted and torn to shreds by hounds as 'sport'.
It isn't a right/left divide mikey (bring back Ann Widdecombe) it's the enlightened v. the savages.

[mikey4444]

Blair didn't ban anything TTT. The law was changed by a free vote in Parliament, where the majority of MPs voted against hunting with dogs, even the Tory MPs.

But you would appear to be right about the lack of prosecutions though. Which is ruddy disgraceful.

[mikey4444]

Khandro....agree 100% but I wouldn't mind betting that it becomes a right/left issue here on AB.

[DTCwordfan]

They need a white paper into proper environmental balance for both animals and plants......foxes, badgers, voles, bees, butterflies, otters, beavers, wildboar, tree disease and a host of plants that would fill Kew Gardens....all out of kilter, not a vote on fox hunting (yet).

[ToraToraTora]

....not disgraceful, just impractical.

[DTCwordfan]

or is that a Green Paper? (and that's a pun)....

[mushroom25]

mikey, if there truly was a free vote as you suggest, why did his tonyness feel it necessary to invoke the parliament act?

the parliament act was/is intended for important legislation, like war crimes (1991) and fovernment of ireland - not in pursuit of a envy ridden quest to bash hooray henrys.....

[mikey4444]

Bouncer33....there is plenty of time and space for us to debate all sorts of things here on AB. And for many of us, fox-hunting is an important issue.

[murraymints]

I am proud to say I was once arrested for disrupting a hunt in Herts !!

[mikey4444]

Well done MM...you get BA !

[ToraToraTora]

"How about debating something serious" - take it away me old china, start your own thread on somthing serious eh? Oh and provide a link, that helps.

[murraymints]

lol....was in a bunch of about 8 ..we ran around with aniseed and pot lids and whistles..eventually we were rounded up in the back of a van...police actually said they were on our side and we had to behave like we had had a good rollicking ...although they actually said well done....they had no love for the chinless wonders on horseback either !

[Gromit]

I have not seen any data that the fox population has increased significantly since 2004, so the case for re-introducing it is spurious.

It would be cynical of me to suggest the only population increase since then, is the number of cruel sports enthusiasts sitting in the House of Commons.

[Retrochic]

MUSHROOM SAID " not in pursuit of a envy ridden quest to bash hooray henrys..... "

envy of what? You are well and truly living up to your name mushroom. Many many well off and privileged land owners are dead against hunting with dogs -especially farmers. Many horse riders are sick and tired of being put in the same category as these neanderthals who love chasing animals to death for 'sport'. Politics and envy do not come into this debate on foxhunting -its about being sickened at people killing for fun.

[DTCwordfan]

//Instead of fox hunting, f/f/s. I am sure joe public will sleep safer at night
if the fox hunting laws are changed, and terrorists are walking the streets?//

It's far more relevant down here, as is the rape of the landscape on windtowers and solar farms....offshore technology, though visually polluting is not that bad. This is a farming environment and hunting, badgers, f and m policy, conservation, introduction of new species, actually matters - calling the majority of farmers and their families 'chinless wonders' is derogatory to say the least and does nothing to encourage an informed and sensible debate.

[EDDIE51]

Murrymints reminds me that it was said that when hunting was banned the hunt saboteurs were the most upset by it.
Suddenly they had lost their 'reason for being'. To many of them being a saboteur was their life, and suddenly it was no more. Friends , social life,relationships, life style all gone with nothing to replace it.