motorbike accident

[bob57]

early morning traffic a large line of cars on a normal carriageway motorbiker overtakes all the traffic on the using the full width of the opposite carriageway he then was informed by a blast of the horn that there was a large vehicle coming towards him he then pulled into the left handside of the road in front of a car the car driver then having to avoid a collision with the motorbike then overtook the motorbike and pull in safely then the motorbiker overtook the car again at a point where the road widens with chevrons to indicate a part of the road is widened for another for vehicles to turn right at a set of traffic lights the motorbiker then loses control and falls onto his side with the motorbike then sliding into another car that he was about to overtake.
The motorbiker is trying to get the driver of the car that is now behind the accident the blame for the accident
does anyone have any idea who is at fault for causing the collision

[bednobs]

sorry your post is incredibly hard to follow - could you explain it again in either fewer words or more sentences?

[Maydup]

Not you or yours bob57, leave it to the insurance companies.

[bob57]

simple motorbike overtook a line of traffic then barged his way in the car that he barged infront of then overtook him then the motorbiker overtook the car again and this time lost control of the motorbike and trying to blame the car driver for the accident
hopefully that answers your answer lol

[FredPuli43]

On that version, the biker is to blame. His previous behaviour shows that he was in a hurry, already riding in a manner to put himself in danger twice, and he has failed to keep proper control of the bike in the end.

Of course, the version the biker gives to insurers or police may be rather different !

[bob57]

that is what the car driver is doing but the police are involved and are wanting the car drivers statement

[factor-fiction]

I think the insurance companies will consider all the statements and evidence an dform a view. It's not clear to me why the car might be to blame but the motor cyclist may have a different version of events

[bob57]

the insurance company has already indicated that they wont pay out to the biker but the car driver is concerned that the police will find him liable for the accident
thanks for your comments

[EDDIE51]

From what you say the car and bike were 'racing' each other and both are to blame.

[EDDIE51]

The car driver should have just let the biker get on with it and ignored him but he didn't and overtook twice. The insurance will say it is 50/50 , the police may charge either or both with careless or even dangerous driving .

[joko]

they both sound like idiots - but unless the driver hit the bike or drove in such as way that the bike had to take evasive action then i dont see how the driver can be to blame - whatever stupid games 2 drivers want to play to feel big, should never outweigh common sense and them being careful and driving legally

if the bike just attemnped a stupid manouvre in a desperate attempt to 'win' and simply misjudged the situation, then its no-ones fault but his own.

[Hammer]

So the bike and the car were playing silly buggers BEFORE the accident, but eventually the bike got clean in front of the car and then lost control? Or lost control trying to pass the car?
Bikes are entitled to filter past stationary or slow moving traffic, but it is their responsibility to ensure that it is safe to do so. Knowing that the car had already overtaken him once, presumably out of revenge for being passed by the bike, the biker should have exercised caution passing the car a second time. Providing the car didn’t do anything silly like moving to the right to teach him another lesson as he tried to filter past, then the car is not at fault, though should probably show a bit more respect for other road users in future.