So As Not To Disappoint Sp1814, Here's My Usual Notting Hill Carnival Contribution.

[anotheoldgit]

Is it necessary to spend this money, just to keep troublesome youngsters away from the carnival.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/aug/22/at-risk-london-youths-sent-on-20000-trip-over-carnival-weekend

All this and more than 300 arrests have been made since 11 August.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/22/the-mets-notting-hill-carnival-crackdown-is-an-embarrassing-grab-for-headlines

Why not just ban this troublesome carnival once and for all?

[pixie374]

The carnival isn't troublesome. Criminals are... wherever they choose to do it.

[anotheoldgit]

pixie374

You have got a good point there pixie, but since the carnival in this instance is the 'homey pot' that attracts them, then perhaps the 'honey pot' needs to be removed.

Yes I know the majority may suffer but then that is generally how it is.

What's your take on them providing a much sweeter 'honey pot' to attract the younger trouble makers away?

[pixie374]

I wouldn't... just be sure to arrest anyone causing trouble there.

[1ozzy]

//What's your take on them providing a much sweeter 'honey pot' to attract the younger trouble makers away? //

Away to where?

Someone else's stomping ground?

[Islay]

Do you have an age range of those arrested last year and the year before please?
No I would not cancel it anymore than I would cancel the New Years Eve celebrations on the streets of London.

[ToraToraTora]

is it crimeathon time again?

[Peter Pedant]

yes a disappointment AOG
no dainty refutations of those scantily sclad young ladies putting their all into - well near AOG
and shimmying whilst loud boogie-woogie fills the streets
gyrating and swinging ......

where and when did you say this was ?

(I will use the information for research purposes only)

[youngmafbog]

Why does it cost £1000 each for a watersports weekend?

Not sure banning it would work, probably cause more troubles and it would undoubtedly be hijacked by the Militant let for rioting and looting protests.

Isleay, last time I looked New years celebrations didnt attract Gangs in the same way this carnival does.

[ichkeria]

Cheers AOG: always the first sign of autumn, this thread :-)

[andy-hughes]

Of course they should ban it - and ban New Year's Eve, and race meetings, and football matches, and people going out at weekends - they all cause trouble, so if trouble is the reason to ban them, why stop with Notting Hill?

[Mamyalynne]

I refer the Gentleman to my answers in previous years.

[fender62]

i guess any major carnival will attract a criminal element, seems a lot of black ethnics make up a large proportion of that criminal element makes one wonder why, is it because it's held in london where their is a large black population, or is it because certain blacks are more criminal than others, who just want to have a good time, and those who set up great pitches selling again great food, i think on the whole considering how big the carnival is, it's a great success.