At Last A Government That Cares About Law And Order.

[gulliver1]

After 14 years of disorder under a Tory Govt .....Labour are introducing 50 new crime-fighting laws. Yvette Cooper Home Secretary is set to take back UK town centres from anti-social behaviour, thugs and thieves.Giving the police more power to arrest and enter homes without a warrant and a lot more.Labour have pledged to give fighting knife crime their top priority.All these new laws are badly needed after years of Tory neglect.

[ToraToraTora]

which is the lucky country that has this crime fighting government?

[davebro3]

How's "smashing the (immigration) gangs" going gully?

[gulliver1]

Additionally Labour plan to abolish a Tory policy  that makes it less likely for police to prosecute shoplifting on goods worth £200 or less.

[ynnafymmi]

@14.18.Do you think the shop-lifting gangs will give a tinkers cuss about that gully,the cops wont turn up now against shop-lifters,how the hell is this new law going to affect anything?

[gulliver1]

Under Labour's new Laws. Police will be able seize and destroy deadly knives found on private property .With up to two years in the slammer for selling knives to juveniles.

[ToraToraTora]

All token rowlocks that will not worry the crims at all.

[gulliver1]

There will be no need for warrants for police to raid addresses where electronically tracked stolen goods have been traced to.Such as stolen phones etc.

[ToraToraTora]

"Police will be able seize and destroy deadly knives found on private property" - so they'll be kicking down the doors of the nation and going through the kitchen drawers! PMSL that can't be right, what is your supporting data for this fantasy?

[ynnafymmi]

Fantoosh,gulliver.Will this stop the gangs of shoplifters(even up here in Aberdeen)coming into wee shops with big bags and sweeping everything off the shelves into said bags and then running out the door?

[New Judge]

There are already more than adequate laws to deal with the problems you describe.

The difficulty is that the laws we have are not enforced or adequately prosecuted. Quite why the government believes that the fifty more will be any more adequately enforced than the ones we already have is a little mysterious.

But of course, at the next election, Labour will campaign on the basis of all the new laws they have  (pointlessly) introduced.

[Quenched]

I'm not sure I agree about the police smashing their way into homes without a warrant, because if they make a mistake and get the address wrong, it could be nasty. 

 

We still get a lot of mail for a house with the same house number, yet its just one letter different on the post code, the road is even named the same road, but its miles away from us. 

 

So it could so easily happen anywhere, mistaken identity of an address could happen anywhere. 

 

It could frighten some people to death, do we really want this? 

[albaqwerty]

Could they please just stuff the new laws, ensure the existing ones are correctly enforced and stop the police visiting people regarding non crime hate things.

[webbo3]

gulliver@14:23

\\Under Labour's new Laws. Police will be able seize and destroy deadly knives found on private property .With up to two years in the slammer for selling knives to juveniles.//

Private property, ive got about 15 Japanese chefs knives, am igoing to be sent down

[gulliver1]

There you go then. I told you things could only get better under a labour Govt.

[davebro3]

they are currently pushing the HUUSK chef's knife on TV ads. It looks pretty lethal but at £30 + £10 postage I doubt I'll be buying one.

[davebro3]

//There you go then. I told you things could only get better under a labour Govt.//

I'm sure you'll let us know when things actually DO get better rather the hype about things to come (that never will).

[gulliver1]

Let's get this correct then shall we ..Under the Tory Govt   you could go into a supermarket stuff £200 worth of food and booze into a trolley , walk out without paying, and get away with it .But not now that Labour are in Power .Think the Tories were off there Trolley..

[gulliver1]

Neighbourhood watch members have expressed support for these new laws after what they describe of 14 years of Tory neglect.

[ToraToraTora]

15:18 ....and that will still be the case. They just need to enforce the current laws, don't need new ones.

[newmodarmy]

You seem to have got the wrong end of the stick about what the £200 was for. 

From   https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42492488

The £200 threshold was introduced in England and Wales in the Anti-social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Act 2014., external

The act allows anyone stealing goods costing less than £200 to plead guilty by post - or face the magistrates' court.

They might then face a fine or up to a year in prison.

Most businesses advise their staff not to try to apprehend or chase after shoplifters, regardless of the value of items. Most shoplifters disappear onto the streets and can't be identified. The police could come and investigate and look at CCTV, but most businesses will tell you (just like with burglaries) the police see it as a low priority.  I hope that changes but unless there are more police resources made available, and unless the courts issue harsher sentences, I would be very suprised if things improve.