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They have gone as far as they can with tobacco short of enforcing a complete ban on it. Now they are making a start on alcohol, first with introducing units of alcohol, the dangers of pregnant women drinking, warnings on bottles and cans, and now kids replica sports strip, cannot be true replicas of their hero's strip.
After being carefully brain-washed regarding tobacco, it is now alcohol's turn. Although highliighting all the dangers of smoking, they still will not introduce a complete ban. The same goes regarding alcohol, after introducing round the clock drinking, they are now highlighting the dangers of drink.
So before the anti- smoking brigade celebrate July 1st, they should just stand back and consider what will be the next infringment into our civil liberties our politicians will introduce? The total ban on all forms of alcohol advertising? Children banned from establishments that serve alcohol, including restaurants? A ban on the showing of The Rovers Return? The Queen Vic? and The Woolpack? until after the 9.00pm water-shed? Sounds a little far fetched? but it could happen.
They have gone as far as they can with tobacco short of enforcing a complete ban on it. Now they are making a start on alcohol, first with introducing units of alcohol, the dangers of pregnant women drinking, warnings on bottles and cans, and now kids replica sports strip, cannot be true replicas of their hero's strip.
After being carefully brain-washed regarding tobacco, it is now alcohol's turn. Although highliighting all the dangers of smoking, they still will not introduce a complete ban. The same goes regarding alcohol, after introducing round the clock drinking, they are now highlighting the dangers of drink.
So before the anti- smoking brigade celebrate July 1st, they should just stand back and consider what will be the next infringment into our civil liberties our politicians will introduce? The total ban on all forms of alcohol advertising? Children banned from establishments that serve alcohol, including restaurants? A ban on the showing of The Rovers Return? The Queen Vic? and The Woolpack? until after the 9.00pm water-shed? Sounds a little far fetched? but it could happen.
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What a silly append.
You go from banning alcolhol on kids footbal shirts, which is surely a good thing, to the banning of pubs on TV shows.
It is easy to dismiss alcolhol as harmless but in terms of suffering, crime, road deaths, family arguments, and early death, it is far more of a problem than all the hard drugs put together.
Last week in my area four young men were driving home from a party at 5.30 am, a lot worse for drink.
There was no other driver anywhere near them, but the driver managed to crash into a tree at speed, killing himself (21 years old), killing the front seat passenger (19 years old), and badly injuring one of the back seat passengers.
And my ex-wife was an alcolholic and died of drink related problems at 53.
But hey, it is only alcolhol.
You go from banning alcolhol on kids footbal shirts, which is surely a good thing, to the banning of pubs on TV shows.
It is easy to dismiss alcolhol as harmless but in terms of suffering, crime, road deaths, family arguments, and early death, it is far more of a problem than all the hard drugs put together.
Last week in my area four young men were driving home from a party at 5.30 am, a lot worse for drink.
There was no other driver anywhere near them, but the driver managed to crash into a tree at speed, killing himself (21 years old), killing the front seat passenger (19 years old), and badly injuring one of the back seat passengers.
And my ex-wife was an alcolholic and died of drink related problems at 53.
But hey, it is only alcolhol.
One other thing........
I went to Saudi Arabia a few years ago on business. A very strict Muslin country that bans alcohol completely.
(it does have its other problems so I am not saying it is a great country)
But, people go out for meals and accept the fact you cannot have alcolhol.
You walk round at night and do not fear getting into a fight with a drunkard, or seeing some young person throwing up in the street, or a mass punch up outside a pub.
You walk round at night and feel safe, unlike walking round any city centre in the UK on a Friday or Saturday night.
It is not compulsory to allow the unrestricted selling of alcolol in pubs, clubs, or supermarkets to almost anyone, as we do in this country.
We have youngsters (15 and less) getting adults to buy them alcohol from a supermarkets and then going into a local park getting drunk and causing trouble.
It does not HAVE to be like that, there are other options.
But our very liberal attitude to alcohol has caused massive problems.
I went to Saudi Arabia a few years ago on business. A very strict Muslin country that bans alcohol completely.
(it does have its other problems so I am not saying it is a great country)
But, people go out for meals and accept the fact you cannot have alcolhol.
You walk round at night and do not fear getting into a fight with a drunkard, or seeing some young person throwing up in the street, or a mass punch up outside a pub.
You walk round at night and feel safe, unlike walking round any city centre in the UK on a Friday or Saturday night.
It is not compulsory to allow the unrestricted selling of alcolol in pubs, clubs, or supermarkets to almost anyone, as we do in this country.
We have youngsters (15 and less) getting adults to buy them alcohol from a supermarkets and then going into a local park getting drunk and causing trouble.
It does not HAVE to be like that, there are other options.
But our very liberal attitude to alcohol has caused massive problems.
I understand that part of the push to remove drinks logos from replicate shirts came from the parents of football fans.
I'd never really thought of it before, but it does seem to make sense. I mean, you wouldn't feel comfortable with kids walking around with ads for Durex on their shirts (I believe this company sponsors some F1 teams), so the same should go for other products not aimed at kids.
I 'spose the only people who will really lose out are very small adults who can get away with wearing kids' replica strips, but aside from Kylie Minogie and a few Oompa Loompas I doubt this will affect many people.
I'd never really thought of it before, but it does seem to make sense. I mean, you wouldn't feel comfortable with kids walking around with ads for Durex on their shirts (I believe this company sponsors some F1 teams), so the same should go for other products not aimed at kids.
I 'spose the only people who will really lose out are very small adults who can get away with wearing kids' replica strips, but aside from Kylie Minogie and a few Oompa Loompas I doubt this will affect many people.
the removal of alcohol ads from kids tops isn't the govt legislating against it - it is simply an agreement between brewers and football clubs, and it really does seem a bit odd want to advertise to kids anyway, surely the tops will look better without "carling" etc written all over it.
i also can't see the link between banning of smoking in enclosed public places and banning the viewing of pubs and alcohol or lessening of civil liberties - the smoking ban is designed to protect those that work within what are currently smokey environments not some means of mass population control
i also can't see the link between banning of smoking in enclosed public places and banning the viewing of pubs and alcohol or lessening of civil liberties - the smoking ban is designed to protect those that work within what are currently smokey environments not some means of mass population control
What a silly append ; Not as silly as you may think vehelpfulguy have you not seen how it has gone with smoking, a ban on advertising on TV, a ban on advertising on bill-boards, a ban on advertising on Formula 1 cars, a ban on smoking on stage, even a ban on smoking outdoors, and talk of banning characters smoking in TV soaps, also smoking in cars. I was just trying to illustrate how these things esculate, I am sorry that you are unable to reason the connection. And regarding Saudia Arabia that bans alcohol completely and you feel safe walking around the streets at night, didn't the USA try this and I don't think the streets were all that safe do you?
Gromit It's not a case of advertising a product that the child cannot buy. It's about a child wishing to wear a shirt which is identical in every way to their idols, they may also want to have the name Beckam on the back but it does not mean they think their name is Beckam.
sp1814 I have witnessed children walking around with worse things printed on their T-Shirts than drinks adverts, on one occasion I saw a girl of not more than 12 years sporting a shirt with the words ' I am a porn star ' printed across the front and then there is the designer label FCUK.
I think most people are missing the point i am not trying to support smoking or alcohol, it is just this constant ban on this, ban on that, for no purpose at all, that gets me annoyed. Knowing kids they will get round this problem even if it means buying fake shirts with all the correct logo on, (believe me there will be a mass market set-up for these) and in any case there are many kids under the lawful age of drinking that are big enough to fit into an adult shirt.
Gromit It's not a case of advertising a product that the child cannot buy. It's about a child wishing to wear a shirt which is identical in every way to their idols, they may also want to have the name Beckam on the back but it does not mean they think their name is Beckam.
sp1814 I have witnessed children walking around with worse things printed on their T-Shirts than drinks adverts, on one occasion I saw a girl of not more than 12 years sporting a shirt with the words ' I am a porn star ' printed across the front and then there is the designer label FCUK.
I think most people are missing the point i am not trying to support smoking or alcohol, it is just this constant ban on this, ban on that, for no purpose at all, that gets me annoyed. Knowing kids they will get round this problem even if it means buying fake shirts with all the correct logo on, (believe me there will be a mass market set-up for these) and in any case there are many kids under the lawful age of drinking that are big enough to fit into an adult shirt.
Personally I think the market for replica strips is pretty disgraceful.
Some teams change strips twice a season, meaning that parents will have to either buy their kids the new versions, or put up with a constant low level whine for months on end.
AOG - yes I get your point...I read that story about the ban on smoking in your own car on your own with incedulity.
Some jumped-up civil servant claimed that driving was difficult enough without the driver having to 'find the cigarettes, lighter etc etc' and concetrate on driving without causing an accident.
And did he provide any evidence of this? Have the police got stats on the number of road accidents caused by smoking at the wheel?
Nope.
So, I see where you're coming from and I agree to a certain extent that personal responsibility and liability seem to be a thing of the past; but I don't agree with you on the specifics of this story.
Some teams change strips twice a season, meaning that parents will have to either buy their kids the new versions, or put up with a constant low level whine for months on end.
AOG - yes I get your point...I read that story about the ban on smoking in your own car on your own with incedulity.
Some jumped-up civil servant claimed that driving was difficult enough without the driver having to 'find the cigarettes, lighter etc etc' and concetrate on driving without causing an accident.
And did he provide any evidence of this? Have the police got stats on the number of road accidents caused by smoking at the wheel?
Nope.
So, I see where you're coming from and I agree to a certain extent that personal responsibility and liability seem to be a thing of the past; but I don't agree with you on the specifics of this story.
After being carefully brain-washed regarding tobacco, it is now alcohol's turn.
So you think we have been brain washed into thinking that smoking is a bad habit? Does this mean you think that there is nothing wrong with smoking, the links between cancer, heart disease etc are all just coincidence?
Or do you think that pub workers / waiters / employees should not be protected from other people's second hand smoke?
So you think we have been brain washed into thinking that smoking is a bad habit? Does this mean you think that there is nothing wrong with smoking, the links between cancer, heart disease etc are all just coincidence?
Or do you think that pub workers / waiters / employees should not be protected from other people's second hand smoke?
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