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yellow lines and kerb markings
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i have come across a junction leading to an entrance to a train station with double kerb markings going across the junction but no yellow lines on the road. There is a no loading/unloading sign in place. Are these kerb markings legal as there are no yellow lines on the road with them.
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Yellow lines on the kerb (at right angles to the roadway) indicate loading/unloading restrictions, so yes, they are perfectly legal. Lines running along the roadway parallel to the kerb indicate no waiting/stopping restrictions. Its all in the HIghway Code (don't tell me, last time you read it was the night before your test!)
I dont know for certain but I imagine there must be a sign giving the restriction times for this to be legal and there must be regular signs along the entire bit where the restrictions apply (depending on the length of road where the restrictions are).
If there is no sign then I would imagine that the 'No Loading' bit is non-enforceable and any ticket you may get would be invalid
I dont know this for a fact so its worth checking - I am about 80% sure as the same principle applies to other parking restrictions
If there is no sign then I would imagine that the 'No Loading' bit is non-enforceable and any ticket you may get would be invalid
I dont know this for a fact so its worth checking - I am about 80% sure as the same principle applies to other parking restrictions
Ethel is, as usual, 100% correct.
However, it occurs to me that the road might not actually be a public highway anyway. (While the laws relating to some moving traffic offences apply on certain private land, parking legislation does not apply to private land).
When I worked on the railways, I ran one station and occasionally had to carry out surveys of necessary repairs at others. I was surprised to see how far Network Rail's property (which was leased to the train operator) often stretched. Many apparently 'public' roads, on the approaches to railway stations are actually private property. (At some stations, you can be on a road several hundred metres from the station buildings but still be on railway property). To make matters more confusing, Network Rail often mark them with yellow lines and kerb markings, making them appear like part of the public highway. However, the parking rules which will apply are those laid down by Network Rail and/or the train operating company. For example, if there are signs around the station stating that parking (and/or unloading) is prohibited except where otherwise indicated, those signs will apply to the roads (on Network Rail property) leading to the station, irrespective of whether there are any yellow lines or kerb markings.
Chris
However, it occurs to me that the road might not actually be a public highway anyway. (While the laws relating to some moving traffic offences apply on certain private land, parking legislation does not apply to private land).
When I worked on the railways, I ran one station and occasionally had to carry out surveys of necessary repairs at others. I was surprised to see how far Network Rail's property (which was leased to the train operator) often stretched. Many apparently 'public' roads, on the approaches to railway stations are actually private property. (At some stations, you can be on a road several hundred metres from the station buildings but still be on railway property). To make matters more confusing, Network Rail often mark them with yellow lines and kerb markings, making them appear like part of the public highway. However, the parking rules which will apply are those laid down by Network Rail and/or the train operating company. For example, if there are signs around the station stating that parking (and/or unloading) is prohibited except where otherwise indicated, those signs will apply to the roads (on Network Rail property) leading to the station, irrespective of whether there are any yellow lines or kerb markings.
Chris
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