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as no questions relating to sex, age religion,marriage etc can be asked i propose my cv to appear as follows Smith J give me the job then!? why not? i wont say my title because it is irrelevant what sex i am i wont say my marital status also irrelevant ,i wont say my age...irrelevant i wont let on about job history because you could guess my age i hope you wont discriminate against me because of my qualificatiions, without gcse paper you may assume i am originally from another country and may discriminate against me, i wont tell you what days i want to work because if i want saturday off you may discriminate against me for being jewish...so you cant ask! i wont tell you ive been off on a long term sicky for three months, not enough info to give me an interview?, better be sure you dont interview mr bongo without inviting me, ill sue you... ask me for an interview if you like but now youre not allowed to ask any questions as to my suitability.. you think im fat? mmmm, now that would be discriminatory! stupid pc rules!!!! just wait for more companies to employ staff on short term contracts, if you cant filter to get what you need then there has to be a way of clearing the deadwood and starting again i suggest taking on people on a four week contract at 10 hours per week at minimum wage and an escalating scale for the next ten hours'overtime' and so on up to a full time job if you dont show up you dont get paid much,and your contract will lapse if you do commit you are worthwhile and get paid well, surely there is no argument about that?
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Religion can have a lot to do with one's suitability for a job when the employee can refuse to carry out certain tasks, or refuse to work certain days or times because of his her religion.
I know for a fact no Muslims work in the local pork scratching factory, and that is not because of a discriminatory employer.
I know for a fact no Muslims work in the local pork scratching factory, and that is not because of a discriminatory employer.
Well, if a requirement of the role is to work Saturdays for example, you would simply ask the candidate "are you prepared to work Saturdays". If the answer is no, as long as you ask ALL candidates exactly the same question, there is no discrimination on religious grounds.
People seem to blow the PC argument out of proportion but at the end of the day it ISN'T discrimination to not offer someone a role because they cannot meet the requirements. It IS discrimination to not offer someone a job purely on the basis that they are (for example) Muslim.
People seem to blow the PC argument out of proportion but at the end of the day it ISN'T discrimination to not offer someone a role because they cannot meet the requirements. It IS discrimination to not offer someone a job purely on the basis that they are (for example) Muslim.
I recently got told by my boss that he hadn't given me a payrise when I got promoted because my husband "would be able to be the main person on my mortgage" when wanting to buy a property. Despite his assumption, I'm not married and what he said and did was sexist and illegal. But it's my word against his...
Sexism and ageism still exist (suspect I've not been promoted further cos I'm a 'woman of childbearing age') but there's nowt I can do about it. So, I'm all for these 'facts' staying off CVs - being a woman of 'that' age doesn't make me any less likely to be committed to the job than a man who may leave within a year to further his career elsewhere.
And as for religion, I'm a Jedi, so working with the Dark Side is out of the question... one reason I chose not to become a lawyer...
Sexism and ageism still exist (suspect I've not been promoted further cos I'm a 'woman of childbearing age') but there's nowt I can do about it. So, I'm all for these 'facts' staying off CVs - being a woman of 'that' age doesn't make me any less likely to be committed to the job than a man who may leave within a year to further his career elsewhere.
And as for religion, I'm a Jedi, so working with the Dark Side is out of the question... one reason I chose not to become a lawyer...
sasha,
in the real commercial world age, sex, religion, marital status etc all have relevance regarding employment,
qualifications to a lesser degree i agree and experience is an attribute but not more important than attitude in deciding who to employ
the more an applicant conceals, the more suspicious an employer should be,
its life, tough but get over it.
in the real commercial world age, sex, religion, marital status etc all have relevance regarding employment,
qualifications to a lesser degree i agree and experience is an attribute but not more important than attitude in deciding who to employ
the more an applicant conceals, the more suspicious an employer should be,
its life, tough but get over it.
I don't agree (and I'm an ex Recruitment Manager)
I think the things that you've listed have no relevance whatsoever to someone's ability to do a role in the vast majority of circumstances. What on earth does the fact that I'm single or married have on my ability to do a job??????
Also, how do you measure attitude? How can the measurement of someone's attitude be objective? I agree, there is a culture fit to take into consideration when recruiting, but it's notoriously difficult to measure.
I think the things that you've listed have no relevance whatsoever to someone's ability to do a role in the vast majority of circumstances. What on earth does the fact that I'm single or married have on my ability to do a job??????
Also, how do you measure attitude? How can the measurement of someone's attitude be objective? I agree, there is a culture fit to take into consideration when recruiting, but it's notoriously difficult to measure.
Hmmm..well I'm in the position of hiring (or firing) people who work for us. CV's don't tell the full story, so seem pretty irrelevant. Most people who apply for any vacancy either have the qualifactions, experience or aptitude for the job they're applying for, otherwise they wouldn't be there. With some work, age would be a consideration, but religion, country of origin, etc., would not. I can tell within a very short time if someone's going to be an asset or not, and if they have genuine enthusiasm. Can't be far wrong - I've never had to fire anyone.
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