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I am looking into the use of natural foods for my dog, any thoughts would be helpful. the dog is Belgian shephard, at seven months.
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At last someone with some sense! What type of belgian do you have? The different types should be fed different diets. For instance the Malinois needs a diet based on ocean fish, poultry and goat, with no beef. While, the tevueren needs beef but should not have fish or white rice. The Groenendael needs poultry and beef but no fish!
Try looking at these sites
http://www.ukbarfclub.co.uk/
http://www.rawfed.com/
and i strongly recommend this one
http://www.dogclub.co.uk/forum/
Lots of brill stuff on there and someone will do you a diet sheet for a small donation to rescue!
Try looking at these sites
http://www.ukbarfclub.co.uk/
http://www.rawfed.com/
and i strongly recommend this one
http://www.dogclub.co.uk/forum/
Lots of brill stuff on there and someone will do you a diet sheet for a small donation to rescue!
Not that i disagree with natural feeding as mine have half and half, but these bags of pet mince have no goodness in them whatsoever. Try your local butcher to see if he does off cuts or buy pet mince from him, as at least it will not have been bleached, dyed etc etc. And by very wary of chicken wings, my friends dog almost died when she gave hers one.
my friend had been feeding her dogs bones for years, and this dog was well used to them - one got wedged in her chest
http://www.collienet.com/health%20topics/bones %20and%20dogs.htm
http://www.collienet.com/health%20topics/bones %20and%20dogs.htm
You beat me to it Lankeela!!
The four varieties are identical except for their coat. A few years ago the KC made them into one breed and they were all shown in the same ring (and could be cross variety mated), more recently they have split them again and now you cannot cross variety breed.
I had a Groenendael and she ate anything and everything! She would kill for fish!
Sadly she wore her teeth down because I gave her marrow bones, the tiny teeth at the front were down to the gum.
All four varieties can be allergic to dairy food, especially milk (if they loose the hair round their eyes this can be a sign of it).
Where on earth do you buy goat meat?
Remember if you feed chicken wings (raw) the 'natural' way for dogs to eat chicken would include the feathers, the feathers cannot be digested by the dog and they would wrap round any sharp pieces of bone. Like when they catch rabbits and eat them the fur wraps round any sharp pieces of bone and enables the bone to pass through the dog without any damage.
Unless you are feeding something indigestable the sharp pieces can end up causing lots of damage to your dog.
Try asking your vet. After all they are the ones who end up operating on many of these dogs to remove pieces of bone etc.
The four varieties are identical except for their coat. A few years ago the KC made them into one breed and they were all shown in the same ring (and could be cross variety mated), more recently they have split them again and now you cannot cross variety breed.
I had a Groenendael and she ate anything and everything! She would kill for fish!
Sadly she wore her teeth down because I gave her marrow bones, the tiny teeth at the front were down to the gum.
All four varieties can be allergic to dairy food, especially milk (if they loose the hair round their eyes this can be a sign of it).
Where on earth do you buy goat meat?
Remember if you feed chicken wings (raw) the 'natural' way for dogs to eat chicken would include the feathers, the feathers cannot be digested by the dog and they would wrap round any sharp pieces of bone. Like when they catch rabbits and eat them the fur wraps round any sharp pieces of bone and enables the bone to pass through the dog without any damage.
Unless you are feeding something indigestable the sharp pieces can end up causing lots of damage to your dog.
Try asking your vet. After all they are the ones who end up operating on many of these dogs to remove pieces of bone etc.
Thanks for the vote of confidence people! Now to prove that I am open to all types of feeding regimes, here is the website of no less a person that Marcelle King, of the Belamba Terveurens. This link is for her 'barf' feeding page, and she has started many others off on raw feeding.
If you want any information contact Marcelle, what she does not know about Belgian Shephers is not worth knowing.
http://www.belamba.co.uk/barf/index.html
If you want any information contact Marcelle, what she does not know about Belgian Shephers is not worth knowing.
http://www.belamba.co.uk/barf/index.html
Because you dingbats, they come from different parts of Belgium
The Belgian Malinois developed near the city of Malines, Belgium, which is a northern city close to the border of the Netherlands and North Sea. Often this breed is called the short coated Belgian Tervuren. Yet these two breeds are very different. The Belgian Malinois has a requirement for less fibre in its diet than the other Belgium herding breeds. Its requirement for minerals is also unique. The Malinois can best use mineral sources associated with a coastal environment rather than those found in the environment of Laeken, which would be the native environment of the Tervuren.
Native food supplies for the Belgium Malinois breed would have been associated with the sea foods of the North Sea. The Maline's area also provided goat, poultry, cabbage, and wheat.
Do your f***ing research!
The Belgian Malinois developed near the city of Malines, Belgium, which is a northern city close to the border of the Netherlands and North Sea. Often this breed is called the short coated Belgian Tervuren. Yet these two breeds are very different. The Belgian Malinois has a requirement for less fibre in its diet than the other Belgium herding breeds. Its requirement for minerals is also unique. The Malinois can best use mineral sources associated with a coastal environment rather than those found in the environment of Laeken, which would be the native environment of the Tervuren.
Native food supplies for the Belgium Malinois breed would have been associated with the sea foods of the North Sea. The Maline's area also provided goat, poultry, cabbage, and wheat.
Do your f***ing research!
I have done my research thank you very much! I know exactly where each variety originated and who bred them!!!
My Groenendael had Malinois and Terv. in her pedigree!
They are all ONE breed! The only difference is coat colour and texture.
'Tjop born 1 November 1888 proved himself such an important breeder that he is the male reproducer at the base of the whole Malinos breed (the first Malinois). His mother was Corai who was fawn with little or no blackening. His sire was Tomy, fawn 'soot blackened' on his muzzle. His mother was a black-spotted grey, his father was a brindle-brown of UNKNOWN origin'
In the UK Malinois have been mated with Tervs. Tervs have been mated with Groenendael and so all varieties can occur in all litters.
If you wish to research the BSD I suggest 'The Belgian Shepherd Dog' by J. M. Andrews and J. Cloutt. You will not get a more in depth book than that!
They can all eat the same diet.
I suggest you read the site that Lankeela gives, Marcelle King is VERY knowlegeable about the breed, its history and feeding the Belgian Shepherd.
My Groenendael had Malinois and Terv. in her pedigree!
They are all ONE breed! The only difference is coat colour and texture.
'Tjop born 1 November 1888 proved himself such an important breeder that he is the male reproducer at the base of the whole Malinos breed (the first Malinois). His mother was Corai who was fawn with little or no blackening. His sire was Tomy, fawn 'soot blackened' on his muzzle. His mother was a black-spotted grey, his father was a brindle-brown of UNKNOWN origin'
In the UK Malinois have been mated with Tervs. Tervs have been mated with Groenendael and so all varieties can occur in all litters.
If you wish to research the BSD I suggest 'The Belgian Shepherd Dog' by J. M. Andrews and J. Cloutt. You will not get a more in depth book than that!
They can all eat the same diet.
I suggest you read the site that Lankeela gives, Marcelle King is VERY knowlegeable about the breed, its history and feeding the Belgian Shepherd.
Yeah i know theyre one breed you div, they have 4 types which are not the same dog, they come from different areas and would have been fed different diets, of course they'll eat the other foods but they do better on the other correct things! This is why people have reasons to line the vets pockets, for imaginary illnesses and conditions which can easily be solved with a correct diet!
Sorry for taking over your thread wheelbarrow! Bet you wish you had never said the breed of dog!! You will be able to get all the information you require on the link Lankeela gave.
The Malinois comes from Malines like you say Snappy, but the Tervueren does not come from Laeken, the Terv. was developed from the Malinois!!
The Laekenois comes from Laeken castle!
The Groenendael comes from the hamlet of Groenendael.
The Malinois comes from Malines like you say Snappy, but the Tervueren does not come from Laeken, the Terv. was developed from the Malinois!!
The Laekenois comes from Laeken castle!
The Groenendael comes from the hamlet of Groenendael.
Hi Snappy,
If you want to quote from the ramblings of William D. Cusick, then you should perhaps at least mention the source of your misinformation.
http://home.att.net/~cusickbook/2.pdf
That different breeds have differing nutritional requirements is a concept I can certainly agree with. Even moreso that all dogs are individuals, and should be treated as such.
Unfortunately, Cusick seems to get many of his 'facts' incorrect.
He doesn't seem to know that much about breeds in general and the history of their origins (not just the BSDs), world geography, what crops and food animals come from where, or some fairly basic nutritional science and biochemistry.
You see, I actually have done the "f***ing research", as you so delicately put it.
If you want to quote from the ramblings of William D. Cusick, then you should perhaps at least mention the source of your misinformation.
http://home.att.net/~cusickbook/2.pdf
That different breeds have differing nutritional requirements is a concept I can certainly agree with. Even moreso that all dogs are individuals, and should be treated as such.
Unfortunately, Cusick seems to get many of his 'facts' incorrect.
He doesn't seem to know that much about breeds in general and the history of their origins (not just the BSDs), world geography, what crops and food animals come from where, or some fairly basic nutritional science and biochemistry.
You see, I actually have done the "f***ing research", as you so delicately put it.
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Just to prove that I am open minded enough to investigate the facts about raw feeding, I followed the link that Snappy gave to the Rawfed site, and found the following listed under 'Myths about Raw Feeding' - I thought I would share it with you all!
http://rawfed.com/myths/designer.html
http://rawfed.com/myths/designer.html
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