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Cats running free
Why is it accepted for cats to run free?
They cause road accidents - and often get killed themselves, which causes distress for everyone involved
They terrorise and / or kill song birds
They crap in your garden and dig up expensive new plants
They scratch the roof of your car
They kill things even when they don't need food
Please, before I get a torrent of abuse, I would never harm any animal - but I do get fed up with dealing with some if not all of the above!
Have you ever tried getting some money to have your car roof repaired after your neighbours cat has scratched it - and been seen doing so?
Why is all of the above deemed acceptable?
They cause road accidents - and often get killed themselves, which causes distress for everyone involved
They terrorise and / or kill song birds
They crap in your garden and dig up expensive new plants
They scratch the roof of your car
They kill things even when they don't need food
Please, before I get a torrent of abuse, I would never harm any animal - but I do get fed up with dealing with some if not all of the above!
Have you ever tried getting some money to have your car roof repaired after your neighbours cat has scratched it - and been seen doing so?
Why is all of the above deemed acceptable?
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I have 5 cats - they all are great hunters....................
....................of flys and spiders - as they are indoor cats.
But on a serious note it is upsetting when outdoor cats kill wildlife - but its there instints - its not there fault they are allowed to go out.
I could say simarly about all the dog poo in my garden - but again its not the dogs fault that the owner lets them do it and doesnt pick it up.
....................of flys and spiders - as they are indoor cats.
But on a serious note it is upsetting when outdoor cats kill wildlife - but its there instints - its not there fault they are allowed to go out.
I could say simarly about all the dog poo in my garden - but again its not the dogs fault that the owner lets them do it and doesnt pick it up.
You are fighting a loosing battle bandit69. When it comes to cats, many normally very sensible and well adjusted people become selfish arrogant twits who think their want to have a cat overrides the right of their neighbours to be subject to all of your points.
Saying that, there are some cat owners who take their responsibility serious and provide their pets with suitable facilities, they are sadly very much in the minority.
Your local body council will be very reluctant to take any action because there are so many cat owners and they are all voters. Notice that there are all sorts of restrictive by-laws pertaining to dogs, pigeons, fowls, in fact any animal which may cause even the slightest inconvenience to the neighbours, but the cat has free reign in most places.
Saying that, there are some cat owners who take their responsibility serious and provide their pets with suitable facilities, they are sadly very much in the minority.
Your local body council will be very reluctant to take any action because there are so many cat owners and they are all voters. Notice that there are all sorts of restrictive by-laws pertaining to dogs, pigeons, fowls, in fact any animal which may cause even the slightest inconvenience to the neighbours, but the cat has free reign in most places.
I can't say that I've ever seen a cat scratch a car roof.
As for the killing and pooing, they are all natural instincts for cats.
How exacty would you stop it from happening? Even if responsible cat owners kept their cats indoors 24/7 (which I would never do) you will still get the one that doesn't and therefore would still have the problem. Wild and feral cats would still be about to kill the song birds and poo in your garden. You also can't train cats not to run into the road.
I understand how non cat lovers don't like it but as cats are now domesticated animals, I don't see what can ever be done to stop it.
As for the killing and pooing, they are all natural instincts for cats.
How exacty would you stop it from happening? Even if responsible cat owners kept their cats indoors 24/7 (which I would never do) you will still get the one that doesn't and therefore would still have the problem. Wild and feral cats would still be about to kill the song birds and poo in your garden. You also can't train cats not to run into the road.
I understand how non cat lovers don't like it but as cats are now domesticated animals, I don't see what can ever be done to stop it.
bandit69, I understand what you mean.
The old, "yeah but cats bury their poo," doesn't really cut it in the almost entirely concreted town centre area I live in, and if I allowed my dog to roam and let him cr*p everywhere without picking up after him, I would probably be arrested, fined, imprisoned...
CheekyChops, my dad has had cars scratched by neighbourhood cats before, so please let me assure you that it does happen.
yelofox how do dogs that ren't yours have access to yuor garden? No-one should be allowed to trespass on your property and, furthermore, allow their dog to cr*p all over it. That is appalling!
The old, "yeah but cats bury their poo," doesn't really cut it in the almost entirely concreted town centre area I live in, and if I allowed my dog to roam and let him cr*p everywhere without picking up after him, I would probably be arrested, fined, imprisoned...
CheekyChops, my dad has had cars scratched by neighbourhood cats before, so please let me assure you that it does happen.
yelofox how do dogs that ren't yours have access to yuor garden? No-one should be allowed to trespass on your property and, furthermore, allow their dog to cr*p all over it. That is appalling!
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leelapops - My garden has an established hedge around most of it - but there is a good 8 x 20 foot which is on the other side of the hedge which runs up to the pavment - I have a trellis (?spelling?) thats about 2 foot high round the pavment side - but the dogs just jump over it - or should I say the dogs owners let them jump over it!
Its the only bit of grass around as the other people have paved there front gardens - so it seams every dog goes there.
Its the only bit of grass around as the other people have paved there front gardens - so it seams every dog goes there.
In A Pickle, you are not doing yourself any favours by comparing cats to humans.
Drunk drivers are fined, loose their license and are hopefully jailed, the same as vandals who scratch cars. Are you suggesting we should do that to a cat, or its owner?
The domestic cat is an imported intruder to the ecology of the UK and all other countries except some in Africa. If people want to keep one as a pet, the very least they can do is take responsibility for it.
Yes, it is very possible to keep a cat inside at night and have suitable toilet facilities for it outside in the way of a frequently cleaned sheltered dry sand tray. If you feed your cat around bed time it won't dissappear in the evening.
People who complain about cats are not non-cat lovers. We have a 17yo one and our previous one lasted until nearly 21. We take our responsibility serious but wake up in the morning to find other's cats have ruined a seed bed or plants set out the previous day.
We, our any of our visitors who put their car up our drive can never leave the car window open anymore than a slit or some black monster from 3 doors away jumps in and sprays all over the upholstery. Ever tried to get such a smell out of a car? Advised the owner but you get the arrogant "what do you want me to do about it" as if it is my fault for daring to leave my car's window open on my own properly.
I could go on all day but don't want to steal bandit's thunder.
Drunk drivers are fined, loose their license and are hopefully jailed, the same as vandals who scratch cars. Are you suggesting we should do that to a cat, or its owner?
The domestic cat is an imported intruder to the ecology of the UK and all other countries except some in Africa. If people want to keep one as a pet, the very least they can do is take responsibility for it.
Yes, it is very possible to keep a cat inside at night and have suitable toilet facilities for it outside in the way of a frequently cleaned sheltered dry sand tray. If you feed your cat around bed time it won't dissappear in the evening.
People who complain about cats are not non-cat lovers. We have a 17yo one and our previous one lasted until nearly 21. We take our responsibility serious but wake up in the morning to find other's cats have ruined a seed bed or plants set out the previous day.
We, our any of our visitors who put their car up our drive can never leave the car window open anymore than a slit or some black monster from 3 doors away jumps in and sprays all over the upholstery. Ever tried to get such a smell out of a car? Advised the owner but you get the arrogant "what do you want me to do about it" as if it is my fault for daring to leave my car's window open on my own properly.
I could go on all day but don't want to steal bandit's thunder.
Wildwood - you can steal my thunder any day, what an excellent argument you have put forward.
In addition to my initial list of woes my husband used to breed British Finches when he was younger and would often go to the aviary to find a poor finch legless, dead or dying on the floor where a cat had grabbed him whilst he was on the wire of the cage and ripped their little legs off - this was during the day too!
He ended up having to double wire the entire aviary, but still the birds were tormented by the cats - some to death!
I have no problem with cats, just so long as they don't bother me or damage my property. If these cat owners don't want to take any responsibility for what their cats get up to when allowed to roam free, or when they have clearly seen them causing damage, they can't have any objection to my complaints - but they have, do and will continue to have won't they?
In addition to my initial list of woes my husband used to breed British Finches when he was younger and would often go to the aviary to find a poor finch legless, dead or dying on the floor where a cat had grabbed him whilst he was on the wire of the cage and ripped their little legs off - this was during the day too!
He ended up having to double wire the entire aviary, but still the birds were tormented by the cats - some to death!
I have no problem with cats, just so long as they don't bother me or damage my property. If these cat owners don't want to take any responsibility for what their cats get up to when allowed to roam free, or when they have clearly seen them causing damage, they can't have any objection to my complaints - but they have, do and will continue to have won't they?
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