Animals get more protection than humans

[Ahmed]

Why is there such a hoo haa with regards to hunting in this country? Back in my home country it was quite normal to go bear hunting on Sundays with the family, and yet over here you get lynched if you kick a dog.

[Octavius]

I think it is incomprehensible that Ahmed can refer to animals and handicapped people in the same sentence.  This thread should be in the bin where it belongs.

[gleno lloyd]

nice one fakeplastic i couldn1t have said it better my self

[saffstar]

I've been trying to post answer to this for days now (none of them were abusive so I don't know what went wrong).
Ahmed, you're saying that people are 'assuming' that animals think and feel pain in the same way as humans do, yet you state as fact that -

"when a jockey uses a crop on a horse, it's not the same pain as when it's used on a human. When a fish gets a hook through it's lip, it's not the same as snaring yourself on barbed wire."

Would you mind sharing with us what qualifications you hold in this field, or let us know what research you've done on the subject? Or could it be that you're making assumptions too?

You're contradicting yourself anyway.  On the one hand, you have stated you don't believe that animals are capable of complex thought. Yet, on the other hand, you think that when you give a dog it's 'well-earned kick' it has the intelligence to understand that it is being punished for a specific action, the reasoning skills to allow it to identify what that action was and the memory to then remember this punishment.  It then uses logical  to to work out what change in it's behaviour is necessary to avoid being punished again.  It then has the capacity for learning to action this change.

So which is it?

[saffstar]

that should've just said 'logic'!

[snuggles]

excellent point well made. Well done saffstar! :o)