Labour ... What Is Their Brexit Plan?

[-Talbot-]

We have had lots of comments on the lack of a plan by the Conservatives re Brexit
Labour now have an opportunity the change the future of the UK


Eddie, mikey, anyone ... what's the plan?

[Old_Geezer]

I think it is to find a place to put the spanner.

[Kromovaracun]

They want to continue with Brexit. But also want to scrap the Repeal bill and focus on keeping access to the single market - which, as May's government is learning the hard way, is not possible without free movement and they have said nothing on that.

In other words, Labour's Brexit plan is incoherent rubbish that will please nobody.

[Peter Pedant]

quite an articulate spokesman on the been breakfast this morning.

from a small business point of view -
real life in this world - locking the borders is all very well but you will have no coffee, street cleaning or check out cashiers.....

which you probably want .....

so it comes down to.....

and if you wanna sell in the EU you're gonna have to obey EU regs so lets not have a bonfire of .....

[-Talbot-]

2 good answers so far.

Pity the self professed political animal who was posting with feverish regularity as I posted this Q has chosen to ignore it.

[Peter Pedant]

well the same fellow Chromo
said - the problem with the great Repeal Bill is that it will repeal a whole load of new Freedoms and protections

and people should take notice that Cameron's Great Liberties replacement would give LESS liberty that the EU regs they were replacing and not more ...yeah The Great British Take-Away

he didnt say that - I just made it up.....

[mushroom25]

how could they possibly know? apparently they don't even know what day it is.......
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/labour-print-thousands-of-election-leaflets-with-wrong-date-on-them-a3522116.html

[steg]

///It says it would:
Scrap Mrs May's Brexit plan - outlined in a White Paper in February - which envisages leaving the single market and customs union
Focus on a deal that "retains the benefits" of both organisations
Guarantee the legal status of the three million EU nationals living in the UK on its first day in office
Press for a reciprocal guarantee for the 1.2 million Britons living on the continent
Replace the government's proposed Great Repeal Bill - which would scrap the 1972 European Communities Act and transpose myriad existing EU laws applying to the UK into domestic law - with an EU Rights and Protections Bill///

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39698465

[Old_Geezer]

Capitulating to unreasonable EU demands in order to retain access to the Single Market is no real exit at all. Either the EU wish to trade with the UK under Single Market rules, sans the 4 impositions, or they do not. Their choice. So stating their willingness to do anything to ensure Single Market access is not continuing with Brexit in any meaningful way. It is putting a spanner in the works prior to any negotiations, in order to prevent it.

Real life world has no vital need of any particular trading block. We have plenty of unemployed folk capable of making coffee​, cleaning streets, etc.. without being desperate to keep them unemployed by importing labour in order to cut out the national labour market and the market rules.

A party that had the working class' interest at heart should support Brexit, not sell the workers down the river bleating about rights when one's national government is capable of retaining and/or adding as many rights as a competent government can think of.

[Kromovaracun]

I love your posts, Peter.

[youngmafbog]

The thing most people miss is that there are two parties in this, of which one is made up of 27 single voices anyone of which may veto.

So a detailed plan is not possible, you can only have intentions and what your acceptable position would be. And no one should really disclose that because the other side are listening too!

What Labour do seem to be saying is that BREXIT will effectively not happen, and we could end up paying in even more. It really does seem an odd position to put yourself into.

On the scare of no coffee workers it is quite simple. Do what other countries show; that a resident of the UK cannot fill that post first, if they cannot they open up to the outside world (but with no benefits)

[-Talbot-]

You could have just typed 'no real Brexit' Steg.



Guarantee the legal status of the three million EU nationals living in the UK on its first day in office
Press for a reciprocal guarantee for the 1.2 million Britons living on the continent



Press all they want we already know there is no guarantee for Brits abroad. The EU could have put this issue to bed ... they didn't ... so who is the bad boy here?

[steg]

You asked what their plan was, I "typed" what I found

[-Talbot-]

Sounds like one of Baldric's plans to me.

[steg]

Well atleast you should be happy, you know what their plan is now

[youngmafbog]

Yes, we do now. It is becoming patently clear Labour have no clue how to negotiate and will effectively cancel Brexit. But then labour have never like Democracy, they much prefer to have their snout in some trough or other. So no surprise.