Jack Straw v Nick Griffin

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1216479/Jack-Straw-BBC-debate-BNP-leader-Nick-Griffin.html

Well at last it is going to happen, that is Labour are now prepared to share a platform with the BNP.

Will this be a fair debate or will all the panel including the Chairman, openly opposed Nick Griffin, in front of a BBC selected audience?

If it was possible for it to be a balanced discussion forum, who ideally would you wish to see on the panel?

Or if your preference is for it to be an out and out slanging match, who then?

Searchlight seems to have much to say, behind Nick Griffin's back, now given the chance to say it to his face, they refuse to take the same platform as him, why?

[Gromit]

Finally the British public will get to see Griffin in action and his odious views will shed the BNP votes and credibility. They should broadcast him every week.

[anotheoldgit]

Who knows given the chance to speak for himself, instead of being quoted by his opponents, perhaps he will increase his votes.

[Gromit]

There is plenty of Nick speaking for himself on YouTube if you want a laugh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCt5Ce0i-m4

[Lonnie]

About time this happened, I'm looking forward to it.

[Marvel]

Jack Straw is a pathetic debater, given a fair chance Nick Griffin will beat him hands down.

[R1Geezer]

trouble is the lefty BBC will fill the audience from the local Liberal club and the mosque, so he won't get a chance to make a fair point. All the other panelists will be falling over themselves to make sure thet are not seen agreeing with anything Griffin says. If it's a far debate then great, I doubt it will be.

[Gromit]

Getting your pathetic excuses in early there, R1Geezer.

Gold GB is yours.

[R1Geezer]

Gromit demonstrates perfectly what will happen on QT! Lefties cannot tolerate any differring opinion. They do not have the ability to step away from their personal views and examine another point of view. So I predict that Griffin will just get shouted down all the time by the audience. There'll probably be a few nutters let in accidentally on purpose and they'll run down the front and lob some rotten veg or something! Stll whatever happens it'll liven up an otherwise tired show!

[Gromit]

If that is so Geezer, why is Griffin doing the show?

The show is pre-recorded, so any such misbehaviour would be edited out.

Invitations are given to each of the parties invited so there will be BNP representatives in the audience as well.

[R1Geezer]

Great, you mean there could be crowd trouble!

I imagine he is doing the show because he sees it as a chance to talk to a wider audience. Not sure what the BBC's motivation is though, I reckon it'll increase viewing figures!

[sp1814]

This is indeed good news, however - I wish they had Alistair Darling rather than Jack Straw.

Darling isn't a great debater, but he would be in a better position to challenge Griffin on how he is going to fund his more extravagent policies.

The ultimate fantasy would be if a black serviceman from the audience then asks, "I was born here, and have worked hard all my life...and served in Iraq...why can't I join the BNP?"

And then a Jew asks, "What are your views on the Holocaust?"

And finally an elderly Asian businessman could say, "I came to Britain on the early 70s, opened a restaurant and am now retiring...my son is training to be a paediatrician...why do some of your supporters write BNP FOR A WHITE BRITAIN on the side wall of my restaurant?"

Slam dunk.

Game over.

[Lonnie]

I'd like to see one of the panellists ask him about their policy of 'only indigenous Britons being allowed into the party. because that means only white Anglo Saxon and Celtic origin.

Should be interesting.

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

The ultimate fantasy would be if a black serviceman from the audience then asks, "I was born here, and have worked hard all my life...and served in Iraq...why can't I join the BNP?"

The same old tired rhetoric time and time again.

Why not " I was born here, so was my father and his father before him, also his father before him....................worked hard, fought through two world wars...yet why do I feel a foreigner in my own country"?

Or perhaps, I am a white police officer, why can't I join the Black Police Association?

Or even why can't I fairly criticise blacks without being called a racist.

[sp1814]

Tired old rhetoric???

Someone get me Alanis Morrisette's phone number now!

[sp1814]

AOG

Factual error...White officers are free join the Association of Black Police Officers.

But it would be brilliant if you had some professional black chap stick his hand up say, "Like hundreds of thousands of hard working black Britons, I wouldn't be represented by your party, but chavvy, benefit-scrouging baby factories like Karen Matthews would. What's the reasoning behind that?

That would be as pleasurable as watching Diana Gould rattled Thatcher during the '83 elections (over Belgrano).

It's great watching policians being wrong-footed by the man on the street. That's what I'm looking forward to. That would be tv gold.

[sp1814]

The reason why people assume you're a racist is because you critcise blacks/Muslims/Sikhs to an extent that looks suspicious.

People can spot a racism in the same way that sharks can detect a droplet of blood in a tank of salt water.