What's The Difference Between An Artist And An...

[sandyRoe]

... illustrator?

I remember reading somewhere that Norman Rockwell was an illustrator.  He seemed á fairly good artist to me.

 

[andy-hughes]

Atheist - // Innocent question, and silly peevish answers. It's all words. Does it really matter, apart from providing an excuse for bickering and showing off? //

Personally, I think it does matter, because written and verbal communcation are things that are very important to me.

I don't believe I have been peevish - I have reacted to some refusal to accept a simple point of fact, coupled with sneering superiority, but that's my standard response when I receive either.

I am sure the thread is winding down, but hopefully sandy has an answer - 

They are different - an illustrator is always an artist, an artist is not always an illustrator.

 

 

[Atheist]

Andy; Does it really matter? Apart from providing an excuse for bickering? Think about it, but a reply is not expected.

[tomus42]

//an illustrator is always an artist, an artist is not always an illustrator.//

It looks like everyone seems to agree on that. The bickering seems to be about whether that means they're the same or different.

Gawd elp us what a load of nonsense.

[jno]

The monk is illustrating - as evidenced by the size of his illustrations compared to the space  given to the text - it's clear which takes priority  

not at all, andy. Here are some examples

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0e/Boucicaut-Meister.jpg

https://d3vjn2zm46gms2.cloudfront.net/blogs/2020/06/22110202/11011801crop2-500x522.jpg

https://images.artsmia.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/16103553/2234-567x800.jpg

There's a lot of variation from page to page (and there are thousands of pages I could have chosen), but most scholars will tell you that such manuscripts are unique in the way text and pictures create a  unified ensemble. You really can't distinguish between art and illustration back then.

[THECORBYLOON]

Surely if A is always B but B is not always A, they cannot be the same?

B is the set and it might have multiple elements, including A but others that are not A.

I think I will stop now as we are way down Tangent Boulevard...