Tipping

[flutter]

When you go to a beauty salon for facials etc. do you tip. The facials are £50, I haven't had one before. Don't want to do the wrong thing.

[kvalidir]

I usually do, but I know some people don't- I think it's more a matter of personal taste than a massive etiquette faux pas:)

[Old_Geezer]

Ideally no one should tip anyone. Everyone is paid for the job they do and should do it to the best of their ability. Tipping only makes folk nervous and people like me end up leaving too much at the restaurant table in order not to look mean.

But if having a facial, how much do you not want to come out bright red next time you go for one ?

[Sqad]

Mrs Sqad says:

"Yes, always, i would leave £5."

[Old_Geezer]

Yes, but on a Doc's income she goes for £1000 facials weekly.

[237SJ]

I probably would if I had a facial in a country where I knew the people doing it were being paid peanuts but I wouldn`t in this country.

[Sqad]

O_G...Doc?........Pensioner ;-)

[Hypognosis]

@O_G

//But if having a facial, how much do you not want to come out bright red next time you go for one ?//

I find your knowledge of what a 'facial' actually entails somewhat disturbing. At the risk of sounding sexist, I thought it was one of those women-only things?

Other than that, I have always thought the whole concept of tipping as being a tame version of a protection racket.

Either that, or it's another of the ways in which rich people seek to show up (as in humiliate) the less well off. Generally discourage them from indulging in the same luxuries they indulge themselves in.

If, like me, you are proud of being a 'pleb', then you shouldn't tip and you should not feel guilty about not tipping. It's a way of communicating to the staff that you are one of them.

[237SJ]

Somehow I don`t think the staff will be thinking "I`m glad that person didn`t tip me after I have bend over backwards to make sure they have a lovely experience for their £300 facial/massage, because it shows that they are one of us"

[Daffy6543]

I would probably leave a fiver as a tip, only if the experience was good though.

[carrust]

When I collected nearly £1,000 for a job, the customer gave me an envelope. He said have a drink on me. On opening it I found it contained £2-00...

[ummmm]

That's tight, Carrust. In our circle a 'drink' is £20.

[Daffy6543]

£2.00 is really stingy!

[carrust]

I found a diamond on another job and the customer gave me £100,00

[Hypognosis]

How much??

No but, seriously, if the product is priced sufficiently to make a profit, pay for business premises and _pay the staff a wage_, why should any customer be _expected_ to fork out another 10%?

Now, if I get treated in a way I completely didn't expect - like a king, for example (despite being dressed like a pleb) then, sure, I'll tip!

"Service over and above normal customer expectations"

Note the contrast between that and determining whether or not there are body secretions in your meal on your next visit…

[Hypognosis]

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My post was replying to 237SJ.

[Daffy6543]

The beauty industry doesn't pay it's staff very well, hairdressers for example really rely on their tips. The business may be making lots of money but the staff generally don't.

[tamborine]

Salons are subject to minimum wage & pay staff as ability. Trainee costs are earned by product sales by juniors. Tigi costs here, I know its USA but UK is similar. Tipping assists employees own training.

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[237SJ]

I don`t usually do facials because I would rather hole up in the bathroom with a load of products and do it myself. They don`t make any difference to how you look so I don`t see the point unless it`s really cheap. Last time I had a facial was in Harare about 12 years ago and it was a Clarins one which cost £10. That`s a pound more than it cost for the facialist to send her son to school for a term. Needless to say, I tipped.

[Hypognosis]

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The beauty industry doesn't pay it's staff very well, hairdressers for example really rely on their tips. The business may be making lots of money but the staff generally don't.
//

Tipping only encourages employers to continue paying measly wages, just like the restaurant trade did, for generations.

Why single out the customer as being "mean" for not tipping, when it is, really, the employer who is being mean with the wages?

Talk about blame-shifting!

By the way, if you are a self-styled socialist, you should be picketing these places. If you cross the threshold of a stingy employer, you are colluding with the very ideology you profess to oppose.

(Where's Mikey, btw). :)

[237SJ]

I agree with that Hypognosis. Tipping is just subsidising the employer so that they can get away with paying the staff less.