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thanks tilly, never known pain like it, find it hard to concentrate on anything, can't go out in a car, any bump in the road is sheer pain. tablets don't work, will give it until friday morning and call the doc and see if he has any ideas what to do next. ruined our weekend, booked up a travelodge and was going to meet our son and family etc. all cancelled, any movement is terrible pain, so car journeys out of the question. At this point i can understand why people with terminal illness and extreme pain want to die, the pain overtakes any thoughts of the future. i realise a skeletal strain is not terminal, and I should remember there are other people in far.far worse pain than me. But i was told that a skeletal strain will last three months? Hope not.