Are You Shocked At The Cost To The Nhs Of Treating Visitors Here

[ladybirder]

and what we receive from other countries when they treat our Nationals? No wonder the NHS is facing a £2bn deficit and rising. Just scroll down to the figures if you cab to read all of it.

/// If the UK leaves the EU, would I lose free access to member states’ public
health services when I travel to Europe?
Britain has reciprocal health benefits with those European countries that have comparable national health services, e.g., Germany, France, Holland, etc. There is no reason why such reciprocal arrangements would not continue on a bilateral basis when we leave the EU. Many other European countries simply do not have a public health service comparable to ours; to use their health services, British citizens have either to pay or to take out private health insurance.
Under the existing arrangements EU states are supposed to reimburse each other for the public health services used by their citizens. Even so Britain loses out.
Department of Health figures for 2015 were posted on the website of Labour MP John
Mann on 2nd March 2016. His website states: A Parliamentary Question from John Mann MP has revealed that the UK paid out £674 million to European countries for their health costs last year – but received only £49 million in return. The huge discrepancy was revealed in a Department for Health response to the Bassetlaw MP. Notable figures include:

• UK pays France £147,685,772 – France pays UK £6,730,292
• UK pays Germany £25,873,954 – Germany pays UK £2,189,664
• UK pays Italy £7,304,484 – Italy pays UK £1,510,850
• UK pays Poland £4,336,701 – Poland pays UK £1,523,402
• UK pays Spain £223,290,021 – Spain pays UK £3,412,338

John Mann MP commented: “Sorting this scandal out in itself would transform the financial situation of the NHS. This is a shambolic state of affairs and we are being played for fools. This is money that should directly be going into the NHS and it would make a huge annual difference to its finances.” \\\

[NellieMay]

Can you give me the source of this Ladybirder, if you have quoted direct. It doesn't surprise me! Yes, we are being played for falls. The EU needs us much more than we need the EU. Thanks for posting x

[ladybirder]

Hope this works Nellie.
https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=fa73568c32&;view=att&th=154d78e1b52f3926&attid=0.1&disp=safe&zw

[NellieMay]

It says my Gmail a/c is temporarily unavailable. I didn't even know I had one!! Thanks for trying x

[NellieMay]

Played for fools.!
I really dislike predictive text!

[Svejk]

Quite an eye-opener.

[Mamyalynne]

http://www.ukip-ashford.co.uk/EU%20Referendum%20FAQ.pdf

[NellieMay]

Thanks mamya x

[NellieMay]

Just reinforces my decision on how I will vote.

[Old_Geezer]

Shocking. Why do so many Brits happen to fall ill whilst abroad and yet so few foreign visitors have the misfortune to fall ill whilst here ? They must have iron clad constitutions whilt Brits must be oversensitive darlings.

[ladybirder]

Yes I thought that too OG. Amazing isn't it LOL. Actually, not funny. What mugs we are.

Thanks Mamya.

[TTG]

lol at those figures. Do we get receipts for what we pay other countries and how many are "adjusted"?

[Togo]

N.H.S.? We are mugs. World Health Service. Our "Health Service" is funding the rest of the corrupt avaricious European care system. The point is they couldn't care less for us. They just want our funds. Out now for our sakes.

[jambutty]

Why is the country always taken for mugs? When are respective governments going to get a backbone?

[ladybirder]

It certainly doesn't seem that France, Germany, Italy, Poland and Spain have a problem in administering their end of the deal. I've read somewhere that we are not exactly efficient in collecting the money they owe us but no idea if this is true or not. If it is then shame on those who are paid to collect it.

[jambutty]

It's so annoying isn't it ladybirder? Our NHS is so precious.

[EDDIE51]

The reciprocal arrangements existed before the EU was formed and are not part of the EU policy, so leaving will make no difference.
The payments to European countries are tiny compared to the payments to non European countries, Nigerian citizens just for a start cost us £millions to treat and we get zero back as there are no arrangements to reclaim the costs.Every week dozens of Nigerian women arrive at Heathrow so advanced in pregnancy that they have to be taken straight to the nearest Maternity unit, they give birth and return to Nigeria without paying. It is an organised scam with the co-operation of the Nigerian government who approve the flights of women who are so far pregnant that we are forced to admit them as emergency cases to a maternity unit. They are often in labour by the time the plane lands.

[EDDIE51]

The problem is so wide spread and well known that staff at Guys and St Thomas hospital ( the nearest maternity unit to Heathrow) call the flights 'The Lagos Shuttle'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/10540881/The-300-maternity-tourists.html

[ladybirder]

Shocking Eddie, but not surprised at Nigeria etc. To allow women to come back to have further births here is just staggering. I would have hoped our EU partners would have been more honest but the whole horrible mess is a scandal. The country is falling apart. So so depressing.

[Togo]

//The reciprocal arrangements existed before the EU was formed and are not part of the EU policy, so leaving will make no difference.//

Well getting out gives us the impetus to re-focus these "reciprocal arrangements" in yet another area does it not? New brooms required.NURSE!

[naomi24]

Eddie, strange argument that. The EU costs us a fortune but Nigeria costs us more. Oh well, that's alright then.