Do You Agree That Vivisection For The Development Of New Drugs, Stem Cell Organs, Etc Can Be Regarded As Equivalent To Utilising Animals For Human Needs?

[willbewhatiwill]

It is submitted that vivisection for the development of new drugs, stem cell organs, etc is equivalent to slaughtering animals for food & for other animal products, using them to do certain tasks and/or as pets, etc.

Specifically bred (or kept alive) animals are kept to achieve specific purposes – like for vivisection, livestock in farming, for sport, working animals. Animals bred for specially for the sole purpose of experimentation, food or work are often kept in less cruel conditions than if those animals were living wild, fending a living for themselves. Animals living wild usually suffer death by disease, hunger, predation, etc. That’s life. Sometimes human civilisation needs are also urgent.

The efficacy of drugs should be grounded on sound biochemical, pharmacological & medical principles, logic, objectivity; tested by controlled drug trails, not on haunches & flawed scientific theories, principles & understanding. Scientific knowledge demands concrete proof & evidence, as well as open to exhaustive learned peer reviews in Scientific Journals, conferences, etc.

Drugs often have side-effects & should not be prescribed indiscriminately on a long-term basis for non-life threatening or innocuous conditions. One of main principles of pharmacology is that drugs can be agonists (enhancers) or antagonists (inhibitors).

Animal farming for food is essential. Likewise, animal vivisection is essential in pharmacological R&D for new drug agonists (enhancers) or antagonist (inhibitors) of specific biochemical metabolic pathways & processes.

Drugs (as analogues & agonists) attached (lock & key fashion) to biological substrates (in cell receptors in membranes, DNA, enzymes, precursor macromolecules, etc) can switch on or off certain biochemical pathways hence providing the desired chemotherapeutic interventions.

[atalanta]

Vivisection is a loaded term. It means "live cutting", and is usually used by people opposed to animal experimentation. What I wonder about is the use of animals for testing treatments for animals. Do animal lovers want their animals treated when they get ill ? If so, how do they expect such treatments to be developed ? Surely not on humans ?

[goodgoalie]

Sorry, but I still really don't understand what you're trying to achieve with all these hugely long 'questions'.

[willbewhatiwill]

goodgoalie,
As discussion forum.

[andy-hughes]

Yes.

[albaqwerty]

that's opened up the discussion nicely Andy lol :-)

Haven't read the entire blurb, haven't read any of the entire blurbs that you post Will, live is too short.

But yes, to answer your convoluted Q

[gness]

Will may add to his cut and paste, GoodG by continuing the discussion in his own words...... :-)

[Mamyalynne]

I concur with both Andy and Alba.

[aelmpvw]

you're not a believer in being succinct with your questions are you willbewhatiwill?

[willbewhatiwill]

gness,

All I wrote are in my own words. I do not cull stuff & plagiarise from the net. I write using my own knowledge, perceptions, understanding, take, opinions, sentence of my own. Like most graduates, I do not do plagiarism. I am capable of writing my own articles/dissertations.
NB
I was unable to reply you all day yesterday.

[EcclesCake]

Will, you forgot to mention that you are a Graduate.

[EcclesCake]

:-)

[Islay]

Oh my are you a graduate?

[willbewhatiwill]

aelmpvw,
I got many articles which I have written myself to summarise.

[Berniecuddles2]

nasty

[Islay]

I take it Bernie that is aimed once again at me!!

[albaqwerty]

this isn't what's his face in another guise is it?
You know, the mormon chappy?
(His name escapes me at the mo)

[Mamyalynne]

Doubt that Alba.

[albaqwerty]

that's all right then Mamya :-D

I've just remember it's name, won't say cos it's not fair if they are not around to defend themselves.

Will, if you want a discussion, why not start off with shorter questions and then join in with the discussion as it progresses?

[nailit]

The OP very much reminds me of goodlife.