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New I V F Rules?? Why Do They Even Do It At All On The N H S ?
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As much as I sympathise with the woman in the link, the NHS is there for sick people not to help create more people. There is not a shortage of people. If you want IVF pay privately. The NHS should not be doing IVF at all, end of.
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The NHS is too cash-
13:28 Wed 20th Nov 2024
I agree too TTT.
We need to work out what we want from the NHS, something that helps the sick and is affordable and achievable or an all singing all dancing service that is not financially viable nor achievable.
Whilst I have every sympathy with couples who cant conceive perhaps it would be better down to charaties to help out?
Nicebloke, wind in the gregory me old china. This is a debate and I welcome your views as part of our discussion. I still don't think that the NHS should be burdened with IVF but that's my view and the purpose of this discussion. You don't have to come to every post looking for a fight. Even the most mortal enemies can find common ground.
I agree, whilst I sympathise, IVF should not be available on the NHS. It is not what it is for.
There are so many children that need a loving home, I could wish that that would be enough of a solution for those who desperately want a child, though I understand for some women only having their own will do.
As someone who was child free not by choice I understand why many would want the full range of infertility treatment to be available. However, right now and going forward I cannot see how the cost can be justified in the face of other pressing demands on the healthcare system.
There have been arguments put forward that not providing this service is discriminatory as only the well off could 'buy' a chance to be parents, and it was also argued under section 8 of the human rights act, but I believe it was discounted as it was meant to protect existing families, not the right to create new ones.
On the other side there is the long term cost implication of dealing with the high incidence of severe depressive illness in those who do desperately want a child, and longer term the loss of a potential working member of a society with a significantly ageing population.
I wonder if a solution might be a low interest loan system to pay for IVF or related treatments might be a way forward, just a thought.
The NHS is too cash-strapped to, presently, be funding a solution to something which makes people sad.
It should be focusing on stopping pain, restoring mobility and removing/alieviating life-threatening conditions.
Private IVF clinics ought to be regulated more closely and the cost brought down to more reasonable levels.
I am sitting on the fence with this issue - it is my opinion that IVF should be available on the NHS to some, but not all!
I have gone through this with my wife! My wife had one miscarriage and then two ectopic pregnancies which then meant that she could not conceive.
She was suicidal after the second ectopic pregnancy and our marriage suffered tremendously. Her mental state was horrendous and she wanted to leave me so that I could have a family with someone else! I came home one day and found her trying to slash her wrists!
IVF was in its infancy in those days and success rates were not as high as they are now (early 1990s) and it was suggested we apply for IVF. It was subsidised but we still had to pay 800 pounds for each of two attempts. Although it was unsuccessful for us, just the trying assisted my wife in her recovery!
For some people I certainly think it is a health matter (mental health) and should be available on the NHS, but I also think that most should contribute towards it.
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