signs of drug use and / or lieing

[mollykins]

I was talking to someone and they definately weren't themselves although they kind of blame it on the story they told me about their situation which honestly is the most unbelievable thing ever and most of it goes beyond what is scientifically possible, so i'm a bit worried about them and I jsut want to try and check if they're been 'doing' any thing a bit funny lately.

Because of this whole situation they weren't themselves at all but i did notice these things, some of which are to do which drugs and some to do with lieing;

~They were believing this story, most of which goes beyond the laws of science and seemed genuinely scared and worried about what would happen and were trying to get me to believe it aswell.

~BUT they did have a bit of evidence that some of it was true but when they went to check their emails, rather 'conveniently' they could only retrieve one of them, and not a load of the earlier ones.

~They got me to do something which was slightly odd but don't worry, nothing dangerous, illegal or embarassing etc etc.

~ They did keep looking to their right, which is a sign of lieing isn't it, or is it if they look to their left?

~ But their pupils weren't dilated, they didn't smell of alcohol or anything 'funny' and they seemed fully aware of what they were doing and could walk properly etc . . .

What do you lot think?

[milly143]

eerrr, have you actually tried just asking him if he has taken anything? That might be an idea before you start telling his parents he's gone mental.

[mollykins]

I asked him and he said no but did say that he didn't blame me for asking seeing as he's probably acting a bit weird maybe i should just mention to his parents that's being a bit weird lately and leave it to them to talk to him . . .

[China Doll]

Just decide what you are going to do/say in terms of speaking to the parents and do think about having an adult speak to his parents rather than yourself. Then do it and stop drawing it out and second guessing. That is not helpful to your friend.

[classylady60]

Well I've tried to decode this and with the best will in the world it's beyond me and as I've had a far from good day today...all I can say is.....PLEASE may I have some of what Molly is on! (Or even the other person who is lie..ing..erm.. lying!)

CL

[mollykins]

Noone was in when I phoned. My friend suggested I should blackmail him, of sorts. Say that I'll blab if they don't do something, so they'll have to admit it's a lie if it is, if not at least they'll be satisfied that I actually believe them.

[jackthehat]

^Teenage logic..............<sigh>

[ladyalex]

I do not usually answer your threads, Molly, but this one is a cracker.

Don't make things any worse.
One of three things is happening.
1 The boy has a serious mental health problem
2The boy has taken drugs and as a result is delusional (and has a mental health problem now as a result)
3 He's pulling your leg.

Whichever one it is, walk away. Leave things alone. If it's one of the first 2 options someone else will have noticed other than you and be better placed to help him.
Please let it go.

[boxtops]

That's a really poor idea, molly, it'll only make him more paranoid (if he is). I used to work with a woman who was convinced that she was being watched, and she told me that because I worked with her, I would be being watched too - it was all so convincing that I started to believe it and it really worried me for quite a while Don't get involved. If he can't look you in the eye then there may be something wrong with him - I know you want to help but you can't be the Good Samaritan to everyone, and this might be something in which you'd be well out of your depth. I'd leave well alone, if I were you.

[China Doll]

Blackmail?! I'm not sure how to put this tactfully Molly so I'm going to go for

'don't be so bloody stupid!' (And I deleted the orginal expletive.

Stop prolonging this. Stop making a drama out of it. P!ss or get off the pot.

[jackthehat]

Would you please stop prevaricating, China Doll, and tell us what it is that you mean ? :o)

[China Doll]

<Rolls eyes>

Well purlease... what was I supposed to say!

I wish I hadn't bothered answering. I felt sorry for the kid involved otherwise I wouldn't have. I give up and hope Molly follows my advice as it's potentially serious and not an episode of Dawson's effing Creek.... Honestly...

<Holds hands in the air and walks off muttering>

[Ankou]

what about if shes done a wee, and is wonderin if some poo might come out ?

might be worth sitting on the pot a little longer, you know, drag it out a bit

[boxtops]

Can I come with you, china.... this is a situation "up with which we should not put" - this is not one for amateur psychology on a Monday.

[boxtops]

LOL ankou, I hope you're on the wrong thread!!!

[cazzz1975]

lol @ ankou

[McMouse]

ladyalex...... There is a 4th possibility. Mollykins could be imagining the entire thing and just seeking attention.

[China Doll]

Come away with me boxy... This is going the same way as a conversation with a patient. The advice has been given. It is correct. Follow it or stop wasting my time.

(I'm probably slightly more polite than that though... 'slightly').

[boxtops]

"They got me to do something which was slightly odd"..... like what?

[Lore]

Your friend suggested blackmail?

I thought you said you couldn't tell anyone the details - also the reason for such a cryptic post.

I'm beginning to think you have a fertile imagination.

[DTCwordfan]

Coming in here cold and seeing this Molly, there is some sensible advice floating around

(i) your friend is on drugs
(ii) your friend is delusional or whatever
(iii) he is taking the pizz out of you.

So what should you do.

Back away and do not get involved for the moment.

If he persists with one or two then tell your parents and let them phone his - he needs help - many psychriatric cases (both major and large) and "addicts" do need the intervention of someone/authorities before corrective programmes can be put together......

If he shows (iii) you can call him a prat , kick him in the bolloks, and carry on - or just decide that he ain't worth the time and space.