The Pentagon "plane" crash

[Dolt]

I just watched a TV show about the 9/11 attacks. There are lots of conspiracy theory's going around, which I don't believe... But I'm confused about the the plane that crashed into the pentagon, how come no one ever seen it? I have seen the security footage but you cant make out an image of a 747 from it.
Is there any eye witnesses woh seen the 747 crash into the pentagon? there must be some.

[Dolt]

That's what it looks like Trim. But who, and why?

[DTCwordfan]

It wasnt a 747 to start with it was a 737 and considerably, considerably smaller.

How ridiculous............and for the record, I almost lost 4 of my staff and a significant customer and his brother and team in the WTC, South Tower.

[Dolt]

Whats ridiculous DT? I'm asking about the pentagon here!

[DTCwordfan]

its a 737 not a 747 so that is wrong.

The planes coming down didn't exactly come in flat, i.e. wings extended on the full horizontal, so why the gap appeared narrower than many envisaged/envisage and hence part of the reason to conspiracy.......and bear in mind that each side of the Pentagon is 400 to 500 yards long - having been in there a few times.

[ELVIS68]

Saw a program the other night and an eyewitness said it came in flat and at full speed as if it was deliberate and not an accident

[WyeDyed]

Todays i newspaper had transcripts from various cockpits and ATC's. One of which was from a military cargo plane, the crashed plane was American 77:
"Yes sir - that aircraft is down. He's in our 12 o'clock position, ah, look's like to the , uh, north west of the airfield at this time..." He is instructed to descend to 2,000 feet "Ok, we are down to 2,00 feet. And, uh, this is Gopher zero six, it looks like that aircraft crashed into the Pentagon"

[DTCwordfan]

and there was the one targeted for the White House that the passengers manage to bring down, to which GB had given the approval to shoot down, but wasn't necessary - it crashed in Pennsylvania, if I remember right and I recall it was a UA (United Airlines) flight....I may be wrong on the carrier.

[ELVIS68]

UA 93

[WyeDyed]

Yup, United 93, crashed in Shanksville, Pennsylvania

[DTCwordfan]

thx - the memory is still there. I was caught out over here but living in the States - only 6 days late back - and folk over here, not just friends and Company, were amazing to the way they opened their doors to the Americans, inc my colleagues - somthing that Britain ought to be proud of.

[gadgetgeek]

Just to clarify it was a 757.

[DTCwordfan]

not much difference in size......

[ELVIS68]

In hindsight, storming the cockpit and throwing boiling water in the face of the terrorist flying the plane wasn`t the smartest of moves

[Dolt]

ELVIS, I have never heard of any eye witnesses who SEEN the plane go into the pentagon, I dont think the Pentagon in a remote part of the USA.
The towers hae hundreds of film footage, but there is only that "flash"video released by the US government.
I really don't know much about that 4 plane.

[Dolt]

How big is a 757?

[Dolt]

ELVIS!

[scotman]

Boeing 757

Empty weight 57 - 64 metric tonnes across the range

[Maydup]

No eye witness accounts to be found but plenty of evidence of a missile

http://www.itwillpass...pentagon-attack.shtml

[ELVIS68]

Dolt there was a program on Discovery channel Weds night and the eyewitness was on it, filmed after it happened saying that he saw it flying in very low, engines roaring as if it was aiming at its target