Do you think it's unreasonable...

[ooh-la-la]

That I'm asking my flatmate to leave on the grounds that she smokes on nights out, causing her room and the area outside her room to smell of smoke. After she lied and said she didn;t during the viewing when i said the room is abserlotly no smoking?

[Mamyalynne]

Are we talking exhaust fumes or smoking in the room?

[sp1814]

If you stipulated that the room was for a non-smoker, then you may have a reasonable justification in asking your flatmate to leave. However, if you merely stated that 'this is a non-smoking house', then you can't reasonably expect her not to smoke whilst out of the house.

Tricky one.

[ooh-la-la]

i'm not sure, she defo smokes and she;s always spraying airfreashner everywhere. I haven;t actully seen her smoking in the room mainly becasue i don;t go in there but it smells too strong in the hall just to be fumes.

[ooh-la-la]

that's a good point sp, in the advert it asks for a non smoker but when i told her in person i said no smoking in the house and she said i don;t smoke. I wouldn;t of given her the room if she told the truth.

[factor-fiction]

Is this the same flatmate in your thread about a post key?
It may be worth having a chat to raise your concerns and discuss how the smell is arising and ways to reduce/eliminate the smell of smoke

[jd_here]

I wouldn;t of given her the room if she told the truth.

Don't you mean //wouldn't HAVE// ooh-la-la?

[bednobs]

it seems a bit over the top that you can tell her what she can do on nights out! I also think that you should discuss with her first - ie tell her you don't believe she dosen't smoke because you can smell it in her room and that you'd like her to stop or you might consider asking her to leave. it seems like there is probably more to this than meets the eye - you want rid of her, but i'm not sure it's solely because you think she smokes on nights out or in her room. Don'r forget you (probably) have a contract with her, and if you end it before the term you could be in trouble. Plus if she's already smoked in the room, it's not going to make all tyhat much difference if she either stops or continues for the remainder of the term - if you need to get the room sorted after, just keep her deposit

[RATTER15]

jd_here, If only everybody could be so perfect, did you have any problem understanding what was written?

[Beaky364]

Hi ooh-la-la (I love your username) If you said no smoking then this means no smoking, come on just how lazy are people that they can't get to the front or back door for a ciggie?
She maybe smoking out of the window hoping that there wouldn't be any fumes in the room but this is entirely dependant on which way the house is faceing and wind is blowing but this is still irrelevant as this is still technically smoking in the room.
How good is she in other fields, clean, quiet, friendly?
If she's good in other fields then have a word with her that you hate and are sensitive to smoke and you can smell it coming from her room, if she carries on then tell honey to buy a crash helmut because that kerb she can see outside from her window, yeah she'll be hotting it soon.
Good luck hun. X.

[jackthehat]

If you think she is smoking in her room, have a word with her.

Otherwise 'yes' it is unreasonable for you to consider that you can impose a no-smoking policy outside your flat.

[NOX]

The thing is if she's in a relationship with a heavy smoker, spends a lot of time with people who smoke etc, she'll smell of smoke, you can't control that or expect her to, it's not feasible and not reasonable and she must feel very uncomfortable living with you.

[naomi24]

If this is the same flatmate, you don't appear to get along with her very well. Perhaps you should look for another.

[Beaky364]

*yeah she'll be HITTING it soon*
Lol, it's just to earlier for all of this typing.

[Beaky364]

Yes i know TOO has 2 "O's"
I give up!

[gossipgirl]

what she does outside of the home is none of your buisness tbh, however when in your home she has to go by your rules, if you think she is smoking in the house then have a word with her and give her a warning that if she does it again then she will be served notice, you cant just throw her out as you will be breaking a tenency agreement and you will be the one in trouble.

[B00]

Yes, simple answer to your question, I do think you're being unreasonable.

[Andyvon]

Hi ooh-la-la,

NOX has a point. My wife and I used to smoke but we stopped ten years ago. However, my wife goes to a day centre where the smokers stand outside the building for their smokes. My wife often stands with them to chat and enjoy the sun and she sometimes reeks of smoke when I pick her up. I used to think she had started smoking again but she assured me she hadn't and the smell isn't on her breath - nor would she be able to not smoke for the five days a week she's not there. The smell of smoke is sometimes so strong my wife usually changes her clothes when she comes home.

I'm thinking it could be the same with your flatmate, especially if she's smoking herself away from the house. It could well be that the smell of smoke is on her clothes.

[ooh-la-la]

sorry i was a little tired last night and i don;t think i explained the situation very well. I know for a fact that she smokes as on the second day, she shuted out flump my fags have all come out in my bag. And i really think she is smoking before she goes out as a when i come home from work while she's getting ready the whole flat smells of over powering air fresher and in the morning it's a mixture of both cigarettes and air freshener. I do understand that if she's just standing with friends she gonna smell of it but my old flat mate used to go out all the time with friends that smoke and stand with them and his room never smelt.
Lol! thankyou beaky, but it;s not just the smoking, she came in completely drunk with a random guy the other other night and left the door unlocked when she went out with him again, she also doesn;t wash her hands after going to the toilet and she hasn;t cleaned her floor in nearly 4 weeks and won;t let me have access to do it myself. I have got it all sorted and she;s going (i'm not throwing her out though, i would never do that) i think i need to find a man to live with as i do seem to get on with them much better. Thankyou all for your answers xx

[bednobs]

if it's her room, why should she clean the floor to your schedule? Or is it in the lease that she must wash it more often than every 4 weeks. As to not washing her hands - none of your business!

[DTCwordfan]

As in the previous thread about access to the postbox, I think you should be living alone......you do not have confidence in her.

God help any future boyfriend or girlfriend that moves in with you as you are beginning to sound a tad OCD-ish..and apologies for being so harsh about this, but putting the thwo threads together gives this impression.