Psychic Feelings

[vernonk]

Do you believe that - maybe even have examples of - some people can somehow sense what you're thinking or feeling even if they're a long distance away and haven't seen in you in a long while?

[naomi24]

Carl Sagan was a sensible man.

[cazzz1975]

is that your standard reply to all questions cash?

[naomi24]

Cazz, and science thinks deja vu doesn't happen! ;o)

[jomifl]

Naomi, scientist are the spokesmen for themselves. Nobody 'speaks for science', There isn't a head scientist, it isn't like religion.

[naomi24]

Jom, don't be so bloody patronising! You speak for science, Jim speaks for science, and so do umpteen other people who think they know all about science.

[jomifl]

Naomi, You are out of order, I am telling you how I see it, I am not patronising anyone. I am trying to be civil and patient. Scientists don't 'sing from the same hymn sheet' because there isn't one. I only speak for me, I wouldn't presume to speak for anyone else but me. I also haven't come across anyone on here who claims to know 'all about science'. Some people have areas of expertise but they don't claim to be experts on everything and usually defer to someone who seems to them to have greater knowledge.
So, I will keep my patronising, arrogant and blinkered thoughts to myself and wish you goodnight.

[jim360]

I'm getting bored of Cash's posts...

I hope I've not come across as patronising.

[naomi24]

Jom, //There isn't a head scientist, it isn't like religion. //

I am not out of order. That's ^^ patronising - and if you can't see that, look again!

[Khandro]

jomifl is correct in saying that there isn't a head scientist, - I believe the last man to know everything there was to know about the scientific knowledge of his day was probably Isaac Newton But he is wrong in saying that there is a head of religion; I guess the pope knows all there is to know about the Christian Church, but he would be a bit shaky on some other religions.

[naomi24]

//jomifl is correct in saying that there isn't a head scientist//

Streuth! And he talks about patience!

[RoseofSharon]

I have had these al my life off & on.

[RoseofSharon]

Dejavu is lifes way of telling you that you are where you are suppose to be on lifes track.

[Tone]

I have had two major psychic experiences: one involving the death of my father and one the illness and death of a very good friend - both when I was 150+ miles away. I also won an ESP competition where I, as the receiver, was 4,000 miles away from the sender.

[pootler15]

Often had them, take a book to describe them all. Used to always know when someone was about to walk past in the street, telepathically spoke to my son during the night when he was younger, felt people in the room who were not there, (others remarked on what I felt so they had just had the same feeling) are some examples. Various family members could cite many others. No way could all of them be coincidence simply by the law of averages. We have abilities as yet not understood and not trained.So they appear to be 'psychic' and mysterious. Only idiots deny them.

[jim360]

For all that, pootler, I've never called anyone who believes these are real idiots, or deluded, or anything. I don't agree that you are using the law of averages properly, and I don't agree that these abilities are genuine -- but that doesn't make you or anyone else who's reported such feelings in this thread an "idiot".

Again, I reiterate that the evidence is purely anecdotal, and as we have seen time and again, many of these weird stories turn out to be hoaxes or fabrications or more usually just people misinterpreting what they see or hear. The human capacity to find patterns where there are none, for example.

[Khandro]

jim; //The human capacity to find patterns where there are none//
This is surely an illogical statement; if indeed humans have a capacity to find patterns, how can there be none?

[jim360]

Patterns in, say, random numbers -- people hunt for them in the digits of pi, for example. Or in random electronic noise. I suppose more specifically I mean facial patterns all over the place, "voices" in what is just noise, and so on. So yes, sometimes humans can impose patterns on the random, or see things that aren't there -- or at least, aren't there deliberately. We have just interpreted them in a particular way.

[Khandro]

You mean 'patterns' which are not patterns, sort of coincidental patterns, like the gobbledygook in The Da Vinci Code? Isn't that really just fabrication?

[jim360]

Well, sometimes it's deliberate and sometimes it isn't. So it's not just fabrication.