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/// Wives can be men and husbands could be women under bizarre word play introduced by the government. ///
/// A spokesman for the Coalition for Marriage, which campaigns against the change, told the Daily Telegraph: ‘We always knew the Government would tie itself in knots trying to redefine marriage, and this shows what a ridiculous mess they’ve created. ///
/// Wives can be men and husbands could be women under bizarre word play introduced by the government. ///
/// A spokesman for the Coalition for Marriage, which campaigns against the change, told the Daily Telegraph: ‘We always knew the Government would tie itself in knots trying to redefine marriage, and this shows what a ridiculous mess they’ve created. ///
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Men become wives, women become husbands and now children with three parents????????????????
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The '3 parents' discussion kicked off in Chatterbank which was a bit of a shame as there are a lot of very interesting isues surrounding it.
Probably most importantly this is around donor mitochondria.
Mitochondria are passed directly from mother to daughter - barring a fe mutations yours are the same as your mothers and grandmothers etc.
This technique does not therefore involve any DNA splicing
You have a mother and a father whose DNA blends to make the off spring.
The Mitochodria are donated - almost in the way a blood transplant happens.
If a donor gave blood for a full transplant in the womb you wouldn't really call this another mother would you?
This is the same thing really.
Probably most importantly this is around donor mitochondria.
Mitochondria are passed directly from mother to daughter - barring a fe mutations yours are the same as your mothers and grandmothers etc.
This technique does not therefore involve any DNA splicing
You have a mother and a father whose DNA blends to make the off spring.
The Mitochodria are donated - almost in the way a blood transplant happens.
If a donor gave blood for a full transplant in the womb you wouldn't really call this another mother would you?
This is the same thing really.
em10
/// my friend wouldn't dream of calling her lovely woman partner her husband, they are both female, why would she. ///
I'm afraid it is not simply a matter of who wishers to call who what, but what they define themselves legally.
/// It sets out how every mention of a marriage in any existing laws must now be considered to include same sex marriages, in addition to a wedding between a man and a woman. ///
/// And where legislation refers to a ‘husband’ or a ‘wife’ it must now be taken to mean either a man or a woman who has tied the knot. ///
/// my friend wouldn't dream of calling her lovely woman partner her husband, they are both female, why would she. ///
I'm afraid it is not simply a matter of who wishers to call who what, but what they define themselves legally.
/// It sets out how every mention of a marriage in any existing laws must now be considered to include same sex marriages, in addition to a wedding between a man and a woman. ///
/// And where legislation refers to a ‘husband’ or a ‘wife’ it must now be taken to mean either a man or a woman who has tied the knot. ///
Aog , if you see a statute with only 'he' and 'him' in it, do you read that as excluding women and girls? If you do, you are ignorant of the law of England and Wales. Successive Interpretation Acts from 1850 have made it clear that he means she too, unless the context otherwise requires
The talk of dictionaries is ludicrous. All that is being acknowledged is that previous laws have to be amended in their text , or simply interpreted; the latter seems a simpler option, as by the Interpretation Acts; than amending every statute with husband or wife in it, to accommodate homosexual marriages. So we may have an Interpretation Act or an amendment to the existing one saying "the words husband and wife include a party to a marriage between persons of the same sex, unless the context otherwise requires"
The talk of dictionaries is ludicrous. All that is being acknowledged is that previous laws have to be amended in their text , or simply interpreted; the latter seems a simpler option, as by the Interpretation Acts; than amending every statute with husband or wife in it, to accommodate homosexual marriages. So we may have an Interpretation Act or an amendment to the existing one saying "the words husband and wife include a party to a marriage between persons of the same sex, unless the context otherwise requires"
FredPuli43
/// The talk of dictionaries is ludicrous. All that is being acknowledged is that previous laws have to be amended in their text , or simply interpreted; the latter seems a simpler option, as by the Interpretation Acts; than amending every statute with husband or wife in it, to accommodate homosexual marriages. So we may have an Interpretation Act or an amendment to the existing one saying "the words husband and wife include a party to a marriage between persons of the same sex, unless the context otherwise requires" ///
Lord Tebbit was right it does sound like 'GOBBLEDEGOOK'.
/// The talk of dictionaries is ludicrous. All that is being acknowledged is that previous laws have to be amended in their text , or simply interpreted; the latter seems a simpler option, as by the Interpretation Acts; than amending every statute with husband or wife in it, to accommodate homosexual marriages. So we may have an Interpretation Act or an amendment to the existing one saying "the words husband and wife include a party to a marriage between persons of the same sex, unless the context otherwise requires" ///
Lord Tebbit was right it does sound like 'GOBBLEDEGOOK'.
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