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30 times more vehicles on the road is an irrelevant argument.
They are 30 times more safe, can stop 30 times more quickly, have tyres that are 30 times better at road holding, and are engineered using materials that are tested 30 times more than previous materials used in manufacture of road vehicles.
It is not about how or why you get charged (using the expression "caught" is a bit of an annoyance at 35 mph)
Seriously, whatever camp you are in, it cannot and will not do the police any good in the long term. These fines have to be "in the public interest" not in the Speed Partnerships interests! I have many friends in the police force, they too find it "questionable" as to why the 10% plus two has been dropped.
I am not alone in my confusion. There will always be those that accept anything they are told to accept, we will never rid our society of these people, nor should we want to. Society needs it's lemmings, the CPS thrive on their support.
Ask yourself this question...If you hit a child at 30 mph would you feel like your conscience should be let off? Because you were within the stated speed
limit ? Of course you wouldn't. There is no amount of leeway on that one.
30, 31, 32, or was the child riding his bike on the road wearing a walkman and didn't hear you.
What you need is the effectiveness of the said camera posting before the vehicle, ie, we have caught 2000 people doing 5 mph in excess of the stated speed limit, and that would mean we have saved 2000 lives. We have taken £200,000 pounds in fines and have effected repairs to these roads and put traffic calming measures in place. They can't do that, they don"t know specifically if in fact they have saved any lives. They assume they have.. They may not have.
In much the same way that a motor scooter passing the camera car at 60 MPH would not feature in their results.One assumes the self righteous take into account the road traffic they don't catch nor take photos of !!
A bit like the £30 mandatory fine for riding a pedal cycle on a public footpath.
If there was ever a danger on the roads and footpaths of the UK, there is one to debate. It is ILLEGAL, it carries a mandatory fine of £30, Yet for some reason, the police can not just use "discretion" they can ignore completely.
Have you never seen a pedal cycle being ridden the wrong way down a road? Or crossing at a zebra crossing, or simply riding diagonally across a road, no lights at night?
Ask under the FOI regulations how many of those "criminals" they have charged !!
I rest my case and take my "valid" points.
However I totally reserve my right to object to unscientific charges being levied to keep unprofessional people in a mundane job that does not repeat NOT save lives. It merely creates a wage for them.
Again I thank everyone for their opinions, it is good to have "healthy debate"
It's a pity we cannot engage the police in the same.
Take care everyone, safe driving and thanks.
Dave
Admitting that one did not notice a sign is a good thing, I never tried to deny it, but....why were the police out if view of the public in that instance?
I am happy with the way I accepted that I missed the sign, most people would try to find an excuse. Does it warrant penalty points....Hmmmm????