Pmqs: Jeremy Corbyn Claims Theresa May In Denial On Nhs

[mikey4444]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38582285

I know Corbyn doesn't have many supporters of this mainly Tory AB, but I think he has got Mrs May on the run here.

If the Royal College of Nurses, the Royal College of Physicians, the BMA , and the Red Cross all say that we have a huge crisis, why won't she do something about the situation ?

She has so far refused to acknowledge that the Red Cross.are correct...is she in denial or is the NHS still safe in Tory hands ?

[Gromit]

A 'humanitarian crisis' was a ludicrous description by the British Red Cross (BRC) and I do not blame May for ignoring it.

BRC provide some ambulance cover and help patients who are returning home from hospital. They are not providing any emergy or life saving work.

And they get paid by the NHS. So charitable donations that people are giving for real humanitarian crisis are being diverted so that BRC can make a buck by doing hospital contracts. That is the real scandal.

[Sqad]

mikey....Politicians of ANY Political persuasion NEVER use certain words and one of them is CRISIS.

[dannyk13]

Mikey, could you please ,with a straight face, list the good things that labour did for the NHS?

[Baldric]

Mikey why did your beloved Labour fail to do anything for the NHS when they were in power?

[Togo]

//But she said claims from the Red Cross of a "humanitarian crisis" in the NHS were "irresponsible and overblown" - the only way the NHS could be funded was with a strong economy.
"The last thing the NHS needs is a cheque from Labour that bounces," she added.//

Part of the reply to Corbyn.

[jim360]

Such crisis as there is at the NHS is undoubtedly down to inaction by successive governments, so it's no good one side or the other pointing the finger. On the other hand isn't this "well it's the last lot's fault too" attitude part of the problem? The Tories are too busy explaining how 13 years of Labour government didn't fix things, at least not overall, to do anything about it themselves; and Labour aren't in power anyway currently. As and when they are again, here's hoping they accept their responsibility for the current mess and actually deal with it. In the meantime, maybe the Tories could do the same -- after all, the mess owes something too to the Thatcher/ Major years as well as the recent six-years when they could have done something about it, but have signally failed to do so.

[Gromit]

Labour built new hospitals replacing delapidated Victorian sh*tholes that were not fit for purpose.
Problem is, they did it all on PFI so we are still paying for it.

[Togo]

Of course it is hardly worth reading the written "report" posted by the BBC. As ever they have just cherry picked the sound bites that suit their skewed agenda, and ignored the main body of Theresa May's full reply. Meeeh.

[mikey4444]

So, its not just Mrs May with her head stuck in the sand it appears.

[hereIam]

Of course the NHS wasn't particularly safe in Labour's hands, BUT they are not in power now and it is definitely not safe in May's hands either !

[ToraToraTora]

"I know Corbyn doesn't have many supporters of this mainly Tory AB, but I think he has got Mrs May on the run here. " - on the contrary Mikey, I am a huge Corbyn fan, best leader for the Labour Party we have had for some time.

[mikey4444]

TTT...nice to see that you can still be sarcastic as the NHS collapses around our ears this winter !

[dannyk13]

Mikey, as many health experts have previously 'it is no good throwing money at the NHS,that is not the answer' so what do you propose should happen?

[dannyk13]

previously ^said^

[ToraToraTora]

the NHS could be saved by restructure, they have too much admin empire builders caused mainly by union dogma. Basically they are a state funded leviathan for jobs to create jobs, health care is not their primary function. It needs stripping out and restructuring. It has plenty of budget and plenty of chaff to clear out.

[mikey4444]

danny..........part of today's problem appears to be due to bed-blocking, as the Social are required for patients isn't in place. Local Council provide that and yet their budgets are being cut, so we could start by not making those cuts.

But whatever people may think of Corbyn, if all those organisations that I have mentioned above saying what they are saying, they can't all be wrong can they ?

[Zacs-Master]

'health care is not their primary function'

I think that, as well as being a vast oversimplification, is very disrespectful to the medical staff who work long hours and perform amazing duties every day.

[mikey4444]

Zacs....well said !

[dannyk13]

Zac, I think that reference was to the bean counters, not the medical staff.

[mikey4444]

I spent a couple of hours at my local Hospital this morning, having some chest Xrays, and I can't really fault the service that I had. Most of the time was spent
trying to find a parking place !

Its likely that I will have some more visits planned, as my GP has detected a heart murmur, so I shall be in a god position to judge how the NHS is coping these days.

Corbyn in PMQs mentioned the case of a young child being examined when lying of two chairs pushed together. In her defence, even Mrs May admitted that it was unacceptable. I didn't see that when I was at the Hospital today, but I did see that the big screens were apologising for 1 and 2 hour delays for certain clinics.