Orthopaedic And Osteopath

[jennyjoan]

Without going into a lengthy story - I asked my doctor via receptionist today - could I get a letter of referral to an osteopath.

I pay and have been paying from I was 16 into a wee scheme thing that if the NHS can't do the thing "they" will pay for an osteopath for 6 times.

I couldn't hear the voice mail so got neighbour over who said that receptionist has said my doctor will refer me to a private orthopaedic cos she was concerned about my hands.

I will go down to doctor's tomorrow morning and get correct version.

Anyway what is the difference between orthopaedic and osteopath. Thanks

[Sqad]

Osteopath will diagnose and treat without modern investigative techniques and without surgery or drugs and has not received a medical degree.

An Orthopedic surgeon is one who is medically qualified and uses all the knowledge in treatment and investigations that modern medicine and science has to offer.

[Baldric]

Orthopedic surgery or orthopedics, also spelled orthopaedic[s], is the branch of surgery concerned with conditions involving the musculoskeletal system.
Osteopathy is a type of alternative medicine that emphasizes manual readjustments, myofascial release and other physical manipulation of muscle tissue and bones. Practitioners of osteopathy are referred to as osteopaths.

[jennyjoan]

thanks for that Sqad.

[Tilly2]

Maybe you need to ask for a referral to an orthopaedic surgeon, rather than an osteopath, JJ.
What's the matter with your hands?

[jennyjoan]

and thanks to you Baldric for your answer.

I did get an x-ray last week on my arm (this is the good arm which I hurt 4 weeks lifting a very hoover) and back - have they found anything sinister do you think.

[jennyjoan]

Tilly that's what the receptionist said - doctor wants me to go to orthopaedic. Ah well we'll have to wait and see - maybe get more enlightenment tomorrow.

[Tilly2]

Go for the orthpaedic.

[jennyjoan]

Mind you - how long will I wait!!!!

[douglas9401]

I was told earlier this year that osteopaths and chiropractors along with hot stones, candles and healing hands may be of some help to some people but due to a lack of medical evidence on their various manipulations etc they would not be used by the NHS.
My own GP said, straight faced, that it was entirely up to the patient (me) how they wanted to spend their cash but he'd stick to medicine until proof was forthcoming.
I know my main problem was excruciating pain and all I wanted was relief so I tried a couple of 'alternatives'. Sad to say they made matters worse in my case and left me thinking that they're better suited to dealing with twinges.
I was quite keen on doctors for what ailed me before and am now a firm believer in science.
That's not to say that others get benefit of course, maybe their belief is stronger than mine.

That's my two bobs worth anyway.

[DTCwordfan]

some osteos are NHS approved and funded.

[DTCwordfan]

the sign gives it away. Here in Truro and they got my shoulder sorted out when I wrenched it badly on the eve of my 60th. However, tonight, I have yanked my
sternocleidomastoid muscle, lifting my nigh on 12 stone mother up.....hopefully it will settle down o-night. a wee bit painful though.

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[woofgang]

Osteopaths can be funded by the NHS but not many are. Personally I would want a solid diagnosis before I even considered chiropractic or osteopathy and would rather see a decent physiotherapist.
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/osteopathy/

[Peter Pedant]

// nyway what is the difference between orthopaedic and osteopath. Thanks//

about £250 a session - ter daah !

orthopod is a bone srugeon with a med degree ( big bill)
osteopath is a bone puller - non med (smaller bill)

whatever the old rules were ( doctors were not allowed to associate with non medical healers)
they are much more approachable now

[Jackdaw33]

I am intrigued by the phrase 'Sports Injuries'. Is there any difference between putting your back out lifting something heavy or playing rugby?

[DTCwordfan]

tend to agree with that as to a physio - I got a physio who had studied both path and the basics of the paedic, so that worked out well and it was strains on the trapezium, so not rocket science, heat, cold and massage, along with Ibuprofen and Paracetemol to counter the muscular and nerve pain.

[douglas9401]

Not the impression I was given by my GP and physiotherapist.

It may be different in Auld Scotia, I don't know for sure.
We do seem to perform better on paper waiting time wise but maybe they would say that.
Alternatively it could be that our health boards prefer to fund medicine. Each to their own.

[Peter Pedant]

yeah Jacko
many thousands of pounds

a sportsman has trained and part of the training is to exercise thro the pain barrier which er we dont
so they have a separate set of injuries

and of course if the tmt goes wrong - they want the moolah they could otherwise have been paid - lots and lots of moolah !

[douglas9401]

"Is there any difference between putting your back out lifting something heavy or playing rugby?"

The side order of crushed nasal cartilage and cauliflower ears? :-)

[Mamyalynne]

Let us know how you go on tomorrow JJ.

[woofgang]

Speaking very generally people with "sports injuries" expect to be put back into playing fitness ASAP, even those who only play as a hobby and may not be generally athletic. From my experience of working with physios in the NHS, those who did private treatment of sports injuries were more switched on, more expecting of good outcomes, and generally more proactive in their approach to treatment than the physios who worked in the chronic part of the job where the people they saw had different problems and expectations.