Abortion Law In Nys

[cassa333]

Apparently New York has passed an abortion law that. Allows termination up to the point of birth. And other states are looking closely to follow suit.

Now generally speaking I am pro choice but this has, for me, gone too far.

A full term baby is not a tumour or simply an inconvenience. It is a viable, feeling and thinking human being. How can anyone think this is right.

And a point made by someone was that if a pregnant woman is murdered then the murderer can’t be charged with two murders.

[cassa333]

This is just one of the links.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/new-york-celebrates-legalizing-abortion-until-birth-as-catholic-bishops-question-cuomos-faith

[dannyk13]

Can't see the reasoning behind this.

[spathiphyllum]

If the life of the child would be of a quality the parent wouldn't wish upon their child then in some cases it may be the right decision. However, i do not condone the choice. I think before you make a commitment you think about it and stick to it.

However, population issue is still on the rise. for the greater good of the population "crisis" i mean, it's not a bad move.

[Canary42]

Just another extension of the "disposable" cult now so prevalent in rich countries.

[Rockrose]

Taken from your link
//the procedure could be done until the mother's due date if the woman's health is endangered or if the fetus is not viable.//

[Neveracrossword]

RR, thanks for the additional information - it makes quite a difference, especially on such an emotive subject!

[dannyk13]

// or if the fetus is not viable.//
But at what stage does the fetus become an infant?

[Rockrose]

When it takes a breath

[spathiphyllum]

Danny, when it stops being a fetus.

[cassa333]

But what constitutes ‘the health of the monther’ or ‘if the fetus is not viable’

Abortion is routinely used as a form of contraception and I don’t think that was the intention in the beginning.

Attitudes change and standards slip and become the norm. Why not just slit its throat as it is born. It would be more honest.

[dannyk13]

Very helpful post Spath.Not.

[Canary42]

/// It would be more honest. ///

But the abortionist lobby aren't honest - viz their "woman's right to choose" mantra which carefully overlooks that half the foetuses are women.

[ummmm]

//Abortion is routinely used as a form of contraception//

nonsense. You have to get two doctors to agree to it. If they don't you'd have to go private.

[spathiphyllum]

Danny. Seems obvious to me. A fetus is a fetus until it's born. Once born, it becomes an infant.

[dannyk13]

Spath, so you know better than the experts?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/ethics/abortion/child/alive_1.shtml

[ummmm]

I don't agree with that, Spath. I'm pro choice but....I know a baby who was born at 23 weeks, she's alive and healthy but she could have been legally aborted.

It's a different matter when it comes to health issues.

[Rockrose]

//Abortion is routinely used as a form of contraception//
That is a sweeping statement given without any evidence!,
Of the abortion performed each year how many are used as contraception?

[spathiphyllum]

Danny, No, i just know the definition of a fetus and the definition of a toddler.

[spathiphyllum]

Infant sorry ** Not toddler

[Rockrose]

Danny taken from your link
//Unfortunately there's no agreement in medicine, philosophy or theology as to what stage of foetal development should be associated with the right to life.//